Joshua,
My understanding is that RSM is only there to provide the hooks for
developers such as IBM to provide HSM services.
Currently there is no standard API within Windows NT to allow Storage
Products to provide HSM services. That's why Seagate's Storage Migrator is
completely propietory to them.
In this case I don't believe that Microsoft is trying to limit or tie you
down to using certain products (although no doubt there will be a list of
libraries, and applications that work with it). They are just providing a
type of API.
So yes, you should still be able to store your data on the Mainframe, the
Unix box or whatever can communicate with RSM through it's SDK.
Developers such as IBM, Legato and Stac are in full support of RSM. From
what I understand IBM fully intend to tie ADSM into RSM, therefore I see no
reason why you can't store your data anywhere where ADSM Chooses to.
Nathan
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Bassi [SMTP:jbassi AT GLORYWORKS DOT COM]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 10:22 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: HSM on NT
Kuli,
You are exactly right. Do any of us think Microsoft would use
Highground's
RSM product if it stored NT HSM data on a mainframe or UNIX box? I
don't
think so, especially since NT/W2K is an "enterprise-class server"
;-)
Joshua S. Bassi
Storage Management Team Lead
AIX / ADSM Certified Specialist
Dickens Services Group
(404) 386-9848
jbassi AT gloryworks DOT com
www.TeamDSG.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On
Behalf
Of
Toora, Kuli
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 5:41 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: HSM on NT
The text below leads me to think that RSM itself is to be used on
the NT
platform to manage a HSM client/program. I don't want to be in a
situation
where i have to define a new storage management system to handle HSM
functions using RSM. Ideally i would like something to sit between
my OS390
ADSM server and my NT client and handle the HSM functions.
Ultimately i want
to utilise my ADSM server and mainframe tape technology to handle
the HSM
functions on different platforms.
Does anybody out there use Seagate Storage Migrator?.
Thanks,
Kuli.
Kulbinder Toora
01384 296191 x3498
e-mail - Kulbinder.toora AT meb.co DOT uk
NPEC (National Power Energy Company)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan King [SMTP:nathan.king AT USAA DOT COM]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 1:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: HSM on NT
>
> Kuli,
>
> As was stated earlier in the list, currently the only available
HSM NT
> Client is Seagate's Storage Migrator.
> There have been posts on the list in the past about this. Some
people seem
> to have it working with little problems while others
> certainly don't recommend it.
>
> When Windows 2000 reaches us it will included RSM which will give
vendors
> are more consistive inteface upon which to develop
> applications such as HSM.
>
> http://www.highground.com/rsm/rsmfaq.htm
> 18. How does Hierarchical Storage Management (HSM) work with RSM?
> Hierarchical Storage Management (HSM), like backup/recovery,
archive,
> document imaging, etc., is a Data Mover technology that moves data
from
> disk
> to removable storage (e.g. tape and optical devices) based on
certain data
> characteristics and policies. RSM provides removable storage
management
> services to all Data Movers. The HSM service that ships with
Windows 2000
> Server, called the Remote Storage Service, uses RSM to allocate
and mount
> media, label media, control robotic libraries, and manage media
pools.
> Nathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toora, Kuli [SMTP:kulbinder.toora AT MEB.CO DOT UK]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 2:57 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: HSM on NT
>
> The site below seem to talk mostly about RSM and the
ability to
> manage
> removable storage media from an NT platform(windows 2000).
> What i was really after was any information from other
ADSM sites
> that use a
> HSM client for NT. I don't believe that there is a HSM
client as
> part of the
> NT client. I was always under the impression that such
software
> would only
> be available from a third party vendor as neither IBM or
Microsft
> produced
> such software currently.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kuli.
>
> Kulbinder Toora
> 01384 296191 x3498
> e-mail - Kulbinder.toora AT meb.co DOT uk
> NPEC (National Power Energy Company)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,FC-SIL/INF.
> [SMTP:Rene.Lambelet AT NESTLE DOT COM]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 6:21 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: HSM on NT
> >
> > Hello, I'm not sure if Removable Storage Managment (RSM)
in
> Windows 2000
> > will provide HSM functions! The following web site do
not talk
> about it
> > but
> > rather about managing removable storage (DLT, DAT etc.).
> >
> > Should I read more carefully?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rene Lambelet
> > Nestec SA - 55, Av. Nestle - CH-1800 Vevey
> > Tel: ++41'21'924'35'43 / Fax: ++41'21'924'45'89
> > E-Mail: rene.lambelet AT nestle DOT com
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nathan King [SMTP:nathan.king AT USAA DOT COM]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 5:41 PM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: HSM on NT
> > >
> > > http://www.highground.com/rsm/rsmoverview.htm
> > >
> > > Look at this for an overview of HSM on NT5.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Remeta, Mark
[SMTP:MRemeta AT SELIGMANDATA DOT COM]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 10:23 AM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: HSM on NT
> > >
> > > I thought that HSM, IE: Space Migration , is
included
> with the
> > NT
> > > client???
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bates, Richard
> [mailto:Richard.Bates AT VERTEX.CO DOT UK]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 9:37 AM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: HSM on NT
> > >
> > >
> > > We looked into this some months ago. There is
no IBM
> ADSM HSM
> > > client for NT
> > > 3.51 or NT4. However I was told by our IBM
support
> centre here
> > in
> > > the UK
> > > that an ADSM developer has been onsite at
Microsoft
> and
> > developed
> > > a
> > > HSM
> > > client for "NT5" (or whatever it is to be
called).
> > >
> > > In addition there is a product called "Seagate
Storage
> Migrator"
> > > which
> > > provides HSM capabilities, and can use ADSM as
> storage.
> However
> > > this proved
> > > unnecessarily complex for us so we dropped the
whole
> idea of HSM
> > > on
> > > NT for
> > > the time being. Sorry I can't be more
helpful.
> > >
> > > Richard.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rodrigo Cordovil Gazzaneo
> > [SMTP:rgazzaneo AT INFOLINK.COM DOT BR]
> > > > Sent: 04 August 1999 15:24
> > > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > > Subject: Re: HSM on NT
> > > >
> > > > I thought that HSM only worked for AIX and
Sun
> clients. Is it
> > > also
> > > > available for NT or there is any third-part
package
> for NT HSM
> > > clients ?
> > > >
> > > > Rodrigo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Hello,
> > > > >Can any body tell me where i can find
information
> on
> HSM
> > > software
> > > for NT
> > > > t
> > > > >backup to an OS390 server?.
> > > > >Would any body be prepared to share their
> > > experiences/hint/tips/pain with
> > > > >HSM on NT?.
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >Kuli.
> > > > >Kulbinder Toora
> > > > >01384 296191 x3498
> > > > >e-mail - Kulbinder.toora AT meb.co DOT uk
> > > > >NPEC (National Power Energy Company)
> > > >
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