You can do online backups with Oracle 7 - you just have to use EBU instead of 
RMAN...
Don Caronna
Think Tank Systems, LLC




Rodrigo Cordovil Gazzaneo <rgazzaneo AT INFOLINK.COM DOT BR> on 07/30/99 
01:02:12 PM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>



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 Subject: Re: FW: Backing up Oracle with ADSM









SQL Backtrack does online incremental backup, while Connect Agent only does
it with Oracle 8. If you are talking about RMAN, they are even.

Check prices. SQL Backtrack has a license scheme based on the amount of
data, I believe, and the ConnAgent does it plain and simple. Could be a
differential point.

Both products have great success histories that can be shared on the list.

best regards,
Rodrigo

>Patrick, sorry I read too fast. You are talking about Oracle and not SAP.
>For Oracle, we are right now comparing two solutions:
>- ADSM Connect agent for Oracle (interface between RMAN and ADSM API)
>- SQL Backtrack from BMC Software
>Apologies,
>Rene Lambelet
>Nestec SA - 55, Av. Nestle - CH-1800 Vevey
>Tel: ++41'21'924'35'43 / Fax: ++41'21'924'45'89
>E-Mail: rene.lambelet AT nestle DOT com
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,FC-SIL/INF.
>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 3:14 PM
>> To: 'ADSM: Dist Stor Manager'
>> Subject: RE: Backing up Oracle with ADSM
>>
>> Hello Patrick, we use Backint from IBM, a very good solution for us.
>>
>> Plaese have a look at their site:
>>
>> <a href=http://www.de.ibm.com/ide/backint_adsm.html target="new">http
>>
>> Rene Lambelet
>> Nestec SA - 55, Av. Nestle - CH-1800 Vevey
>> Tel: ++41'21'924'35'43 / Fax: ++41'21'924'45'89
>> E-Mail: rene.lambelet AT nestle DOT com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kelly, Patrick C. [SMTP:PKELLY AT WCB.STATE.ND DOT US]
>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 2:49 PM
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: Backing up Oracle with ADSM
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I am looking for some suggestions on backing up Oracle databases
>> using ADSM.
>> The way we do it now, is to shutdown the database nightly and do a
>> cold
>> backup. Works good but causes about 3hrs of downtime. What I would
>> like to
>> do is shut the database down for a cold backkup weekly and then
>> backup the
>> archive logs periodically throughout the week.
>>
>> Has anyone had experience doing this? More importantly has anyone
>> had
>> success recovering from this type of backup. I have seen how fussy
>> Oracle
>> can be after a restore and I need to have my bases covered.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Pat Kelly
>> pkelly AT wcb.state.nd DOT us
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Thank You,
Thank You,

Don Caronna
Think Tank Systems, LLC
IBM CATE/ADSM Certified Technician/Solutions Provider
Office: (562) 653-2520
Fax:    (562) 653-2560
dcaronna AT ttank DOT com
www.ttank.com