ADSM-L

Re: Bare Metal Restore on NT

1999-02-11 13:33:44
Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore on NT
From: Joel Fuhrman <joelf AT CAC.WASHINGTON DOT EDU>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:33:44 -0800
In the first paragraph on page 68 of "Using the Microsoft Windows
Backup-Archive Client (SH26-4078-02)" it says "ADSM client directories
should also be excluded."  Based on the instructions below and other answers
to this thread, it looks like you are INCLUDING (i.e. not excludint) the
ADSM stuff. Is this correct?

On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Kelly J. Lipp wrote:

> Sean,
>
> Here's something I saved from the gurus who got to do this late last year.  
> My compliments to the original authors:
>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Bob Gleason/IDGCORP/IDG on 10/21/98
> 11:31 AM ---------------------------
>
>
> Jeff Heather
> 10/21/98 10:35 AM
>
> To:   Bob Gleason/IDGCORP/IDG@IDG
> cc:
>
> Subject:  Re: NT full restore problems  (Document link not converted)
>
> Fred,
>
> We recently conducted a "bare metal restore" test of an NT Server system.
> After several unsuccessful restores, we succeeded by doing the following:
> 1)  Rebuild NT with a primary NT partion and a restore partition
> 2)  Reload the ADSM client on the restore partition
> 3)  (from the restore partition) Run a full restore of the system from the
> client gui
> 3)  Boot into the primary NT partition
> 4)  Open the ADSM command line client and run the "regrest entire" command
> 5)  Reboot into the primary NT partition
>
> Following these steps, we were able to successfully restore all of our apps
> and all of our registry settings.
>
> Jeff Heather
> International Data Group
>
>
>
>
>
> Bob Gleason
> 10/21/98 08:29 AM
>
> To:   Jeff Heather/IDGCORP/IDG@IDG, Gerry Criscenzo/IDGCORP/IDG@IDG
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: NT full restore problems
>
>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Bob Gleason/IDGCORP/IDG on 10/21/98
> 08:39 AM ---------------------------
>
>
> "Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT NL> on 10/21/98 02:48:43 AM
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
>
>
>  To:      ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>
>  cc:      (bcc: Bob Gleason/IDGCORP/IDG)
>
>
>
>  Subject: Re: NT full restore problems
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Fred!
> If the OS would allow you to replace open/locked files it would
> definitely crash the system. ADSM allows you to overwrite (some) open
> files, but a lot of files (for instance .DLL files) are locked by the
> Operating System. These files cannot be replaced.
> Your user should do the following to recover a Windows NT system:
> 1) He should install Windows NT in a different directory. The default is
> c:\winnt, he should install it in something like c:\winnt.tmp.
> 2) He should install ADSM for Win32 in a different directory. The
> default is c:\win32app\ibm\adsm, he should install it in something like
> c:\win32app.tmp\ibm\adsm.
> 3) Now start ADSM and restore the entire C: drive. Windows NT reads the
> file c:\boot.ini to see in which directory the OS files are installed.
> By default (if you use the dsm.smp from the BACLIENT directory) this
> file is excluded from the backup. If this is the case, you will have to
> edit this file and change \winnt.tmp in \winnt.
> 4) Now reboot the system. Windows will use c:\winnt again and in that
> windows version ADSM is installed in c:\win32app\ibm\adsm.
> 5) You can now delete the c:\winnt.tmp and c:\win32app.tmp\ibm\adsm
> directories.
> Kindest regards,
> Eric van Loon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Johanson [mailto:fred AT MIDWAY.UCHICAGO DOT EDU]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 21:49
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Fwd: NT full restore problems
>
>
> A question from one of my users.  From the documentation at hand, I
> can't
> answer his question.  Any help appreciated.
>
>
>
> >From: "Jonathan Eric Miller" <jemiller AT midway.uchicago DOT edu>
> >To: "S Frederic Johanson" <fred AT midway.uchicago DOT edu>
> >Cc: "Arno Bosse" <abosse AT midway.uchicago DOT edu>
> >Subject: NT full restore problems
> >Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:33:20 -0500
> >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0707.2700
> >
> >Fred,
> >
> >To test ADSM's full restore capabilities, I reformatted the hard drive on
> >piranha.uchicago.edu, performed a base install of NT 4 and the ADSM
> client,
> >and then attempted to restore the entire C: drive from ADSM backup. I
> found
> >that ADSM is not able to restore files that are in use by the OS, which
> >turned out to be 96 system files. Do you know if there is a way to force
> it
> >to overwrite files that are in use? When the ADSM client attempts to
> restore
> >a files that is in use, it displays a message box with a button that
> allows
> >you to attempt to overwrite the file. However, it doesn't work. It keeps
> >displaying the same message box until you select the Skip button instead.
> >
> >Jon
> >
>
>
> Kelly J. Lipp
> Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
> www.storsol.com
> lipp AT storsol DOT com
> (719)531-5926
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Remeta, Mark
> Sent:   Tuesday, February 09, 1999 10:31 AM
> To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:        Re: Bare Metal Restore on NT
>
> Install NT and ADSM in different directories than on the original system.
> Get the Redbook it explains the procedure in there.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean Stecker [SMTP:Stecker.Sean AT ORBITAL-LSG DOT COM]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 11:26 AM
> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject:      Bare Metal Restore on NT
> >
> > I've just been informed that this afternoon, we will be blowing away one
> > of our
> > servers and doing a ground up restore from ADSM.  Just wondering if anyone
> > has
> > any tips or tricks that you may have found while performing this
> > operation.  I
> > know it's best to learn from your own mistakes, but I'm willing to make an
> > exception if anyone has any red flags to alert me to.  My biggest question
> > is
> > that after we install NT Server and ADSM, what are the consequences of any
> > of
> > those files being overwritten once we start the restore?
> >
> > Thanks for your help!!
> >
> > Sean Stecker
> > stecker.sean AT orbital-lsg DOT com
>
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