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Re: notes connect agent date-aged material

1998-09-22 12:21:17
Subject: Re: notes connect agent date-aged material
From: Dan Giles <Dan_Giles AT MANULIFE DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:21:17 -0400
Cindy,
If you put in a design change request on this with IBM, then so will I.
That's about all we can do to let IBM know that there are people interested
in such a feature.

Dan Giles
Application Specialist
Manulife Financial, Corporate
Phone: 416-926-3549 Fax: 416-926-5234





From: Cindy Cannam <CCannam AT GENAM DOT COM> on 09/21/98 02:57 PM GMT

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Hi Dan,

It seems a lot of sites are experiencing this problem (disappearing DASD
with Notes), and so far I haven't been able to find a suitable work-around
that doesn't entail gobs of local coding and hand-stands to push the Agent
in this direction. Yes, the HSM facility would be an excellent vehicle for
this situation, but since I've not seen anything from IBM concerning HSM
and any Connect Agent, we'll be out of space and in the proverbial weeds
long before these mechanisms are in place.

And, yes, I've been pushing for the "charge 'em if they use it" methodology
when users (or departments) start munching on vast amounts of DASD for
John's lasagna recipes via e-mail to his entire business unit, and Susie's
multiple e-mail attachments for pictures of her niece and nephew in last
year's Halloween costumes. This is meeting with resistance from the
business units (understandably --- they've been getting the service for
free for all real purposes). The political melee will soon begin again.

If there's a way to reach the granularity goal via the BA client, and keep
everyone moderately happy, I'd like to know how to set this up.

C.L.Cannam
Storage Management
GENAM/St. Louis, MO/USA
ccannam AT genam DOT com




Dan Giles <Dan_Giles AT MANULIFE DOT COM> on 09/18/98 12:29:57 PM

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Hi Cindy.

Have you been talking to our Notes people? This problem sounds VERY
familiar. We were finally able to implement a "max size" policy for e-mail
folders. We still allow them to go over this, but it costs them $$.

Anyway, I believe what you are looking for is HSM functionality for the
Notes agent. There is no such beast at present, but at times I'm tempted to
try to write my own. This would also be very helpfull on large Database
warehouses where a lot of the data sits idle for a long time.


Dan Giles
Application Specialist
Manulife Financial, Corporate
Phone: 416-926-3549 Fax: 416-926-5234





From: Cindy Cannam <CCannam AT GENAM DOT COM> on 09/17/98 06:36 PM GMT

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To all:

Server: OS/390 running V2.1.13
Client: WINNT 4.0 SP3 with ADSM V3R1L03 (PTF3) and Notes Connect Agent
2.1.8

We're quickly running out of external RAID storage on our Notes servers,
and after running through some statistics, I've determined that less than
7% of the databases and mail files are changing on a daily basis. Due to
long-running political battles, the Notes environment has been allowed to
swallow as much DASD as required in order to keep up with a "no delete"
mentality --- consequently there are multiple users who have mail files in
excess of 700 MB, and are continuing to grow daily.

The question: with the Notes Connect Agent, is there a facility to (1)
instruct ADSM to look for all mail/database files over XX days old; (2)
move these files to tape through some sort of special archival process; and
(3) delete the files from the source DASD element? If this is possible with
the Agent, and mildly painless, what are the steps required to make this
happen? I can see that the use of the BA client would not provide the
granularity required for a non-relational database structure such as Notes,
so moving files via the archive process here is probably not a viable
option. Or is it?

Any suggestions? war-stories?

C.L.Cannam
Storage Management
GENAM/St. Louis, MO/USA
ccannam AT genam DOT com
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