I am currently implementing ADSM v3 and am looking at using EMC's Time
Finer application.
Does anyone know of any problems with doing this.. I am backing up about
4.2TB of EMC storage.
.
David Beardsley
Sr. Technical Programmer
Winn Dixie Stores Inc.
DavidBeardsley AT Winn-Dixie DOT com <mailto:DavidBeardsley AT Winn-Dixie DOT 
com>
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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Campbell Esplin [mailto:Campbell AT KINGSLEY.CO DOT ZA]
                Sent:   Wednesday, July 08, 1998 7:03 AM
                To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
                Subject:        Re: EMC's Enterprise Data Manager

                Dan,

                Thanks for the comeback.......I think those
conversations got mixed up with
                the EMC SRDF feature which my customer happens to be a
sacred user of. EDM
                is supposedly to be used as Enterprise Data Manager
providing
                backup/recovery of files/partitions/disks (?? not sure
which it is)  to a
                backup copy on tape.

                I will keep u in the picture. Sources remain protected
though. I think u
                will understand that.

                Regards
                Campbell Esplin
                http://www.excal.co.za

                ----------
                > From: Dan Giles <Dan_Giles AT MANULIFE DOT COM>
                > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
                > Subject: Re: EMC's Enterprise Data Manager
                > Date: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 10:58 PM
                >
                > Hi Campbell.
                >
                > Please let me know what you dig up. We too are using
EMC and ADSM. There
                is some
                > talk of using EDM, but certainly not as a total
solution. I personally am
                not
                > that familiar with EDM, but I can give you  about 1.4
cents worth of
                comments.
                >
                > If we do use EDM, it would be for highly critical
applications in case of
                > Disaster. EDM would mirror the disks partitions. To
make it worth while
                is a
                > disaster, it would get mirrored across the WAN. Unless
you have a huge
                bandwidth
                > on your WAN that's not being used for anything else,
you can see what
                > restriction #1 is. Also, I believe, since EDM mirrors
the partitions, I
                do not
                > see any way of recovering single files: talk to EMC
about this.
                >
                > Last thing. If you are using EDM to protect a
database, then what happens
                if the
                > application itself destroys or corrupts the data? Then
the corruption is
                mirrors
                > by EDM! Since you have versioning control on ADSM, you
can restore the
                data from
                > a time when you know the data was still good.
                >
                > These comments are based on pieces of conversations
that I picked up with
                a
                > collegue that knows a good deal about EMC. If you have
specific questions
                or
                > concerns, let me know and perhaps I can get some
answers for you from
                him.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > From: Campbell Esplin <Campbell AT KINGSLEY.CO DOT ZA> on
07/06/98 06:00 PM GMT
                >
                > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
<ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
                >
                > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
                > cc:    (bcc: ADSM)
                > Subject:  EMC's Enterprise Data Manager
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Folks, give it to me!
                > I need all possible arguments to advise my customer on
the best approach
                to
                > follow. The options are ADSM or EDM (heavy preference
held by the
                customer
                > for the latter). Knowing ADSM and not knowing EDM
leaves me somewhat
                > flatfooted. Anyone out there that has any experience
with EDM, STK
                > Libraries, EMC 3440's and the "PIPE" to the dedicated
MP processor - good
                > or bad -  please, if u don't mind tell me more about
it.If u want to keep
                > it confidential mail directly to me at the given EMAIL
address.
                > I sit with 1.7TB on a 3440 EMC disk unit with 5 large
NT Servers coupled
                > via fiber to the 3440. An EMC controller sucks off the
data, apparently,
                > whilst the servers are online, off to the dedicated
EDM server with the
                STK
                > library. Any info on this controller will be helpfull.
                > Regards
                > Campbell Esplin
                > campbell AT kingsley.co DOT za
                > http://www.excal.co.za