This is my final say on this issue. I promise. Sorry if I sound rude but
I have had it with the crap and excuses from IBM today.

1) I say again, why on earth would you want to even consider having a
default to
include network volumes, or even make it easy. Hello? This is a basic
storage management 101 fundamental.

2) If I am a user and I open the V3 client my first instinct is to click
the first folder I see and the backup
button in the lower left. This will back up all mapped network drives.
Do I have a missing setting or option. Hey If I screwed up I will admit
it!

I am sure IBM gets input from the customer, but which customers?
Couldn't they see this issue? I noticed it 5 minutes after I installed
the
Version 3 client.

THE END -
C
________________________
Cris Robinson
Senior Technical Analyst
Desktop Services Technical Support
Liberty Mutual Insurance
603.431.8400.54837
cris.robinson AT libertymutual DOT com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Walker [SMTP:walkerbl AT VNET.IBM DOT COM]
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 1998 3:21 PM
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:      Re: It's too easy !
>
> Bob,
>
> Neither V2 nor V3 offered the kind of protection you want.  With V2,
> it was
> just as easy to select additional items in the domain.  Also, they
> still
> had to select a menu option (called Incremental) that incrementally
> backed
> up whatever was selected in the list.  To use the tree function, they
> chose
> a different menu option.
>
> In V3, they still have to select a menu option to incrementally backup
> the
> domain. However, this is actually safer, because the user can't change
> what
> that domain is without editing the DOMAIN option.
>
> I would also suggest submitting an ADSM requirement (via your IBM rep)
> about adding the ability to disable the backup of network drives from
> a
> client.
>
> There is one other thing you can do, but it doesn't really fix your
> problem.  By using the "EXCLUDE.DIR" option, you can basically exclude
> an
> entire drive.  For example,
>    exclude.dir "La Pomme:*"
> will exclude all directory trees on drive La Pomme (the root files
> will
> actually get backed up, but that's another issue).  Obviously, this
> only
> works if you happen to know the name of drive that is being backed up.
> But
> for those users who keep doing it by accident, you can add it to their
> server defined option file.
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
> >Thank you to Andy, Mike and Brett of ADSM Development for clarifying
> the
> >version 3 GUI/domain situation. I fully appreciate the performance
> and
> >usability implications on which the design was based. Unfortunately,
> at my
> >own site, neither the "Backup Domain" menu option nor the
> pre-expanded
> >tree offer sufficient protection. The onus is still on the user to
> make a
> >selection before launching the backup because nothing is pre-selected
> as
> >it was in version 2. The danger of making a bad selection via the GUI
> is
> >still too great. Most end-users don't understand, and shouldn't need
> to
> >understand, the details. Some will use the "let's select everything
> to be
> >sure" technique and others will try the "I wonder what happens if..."
> >approach. Then there are those who are simply accident prone. It will
> only
> >require a few of these to fill my ADSM server database and I
> certainly
> >don't want to clean up that sort of mess. What I would personally
> like is
> >a way for the ADSM administrator to grant or deny backup rights for
> >individual clients, as suggested by Cris Robinson. I don't know how
> this
> >should be implemented in detail but perhaps something like a
> >BACKUPREMOTE=yes/no attribute akin to the BACKDELETE and ARCHDELETE
> >attributes of the node definition.
> >
> >Bob Matthews,
> >University of Geneva.
>
>
> o------------------------------------------------------o
>   Brett Walker                  ADSM Development, IBM
>   walkerbl AT vnet.ibm DOT com         tie 276-0265
> o------------------------------------------------------o
> "That's just my opinion; I could be wrong."
>       --- Dennis Miller