ADSM-L

Re: FW: database keeps growing??

1997-03-19 17:16:27
Subject: Re: FW: database keeps growing??
From: Dianne Sharp <DSHARP AT CLEAR.CO DOT NZ>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:16:27 +1200
>
>I had this response from Dwight regarding checking the Expire Interval
>setting on my MVS Server running ADSM V1.  I can do the query option command
>and it shows me that the interval is 1 (I think this means 1 hour as it
>appears to happen every hour).  However, in the V1 Admin Guide under Server
>Options, ExpInterval is not one of the options listed.
>
>Does anyone know if or how I can change this option?
>
>Dianne Sharp
>Operations Analyst
>CLEAR Communications, Auckland, New Zealand
>dsharp AT clear.co DOT nz
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>From:  decook AT amoco DOT com[SMTP:decook AT amoco DOT com]
>Sent:  Thursday, 20 March, 1997 2:03AM
>To:    Dianne Sharp
>Subject:       Re: FW: database keeps growing??
>
>     Dianne, I've never been exposed to a V1 environment.   What I can tell
>      you about V2 is that if you do a "query option" in a dsmadmc session
>     there is a field "expinterval" and that is how often expires run.  I
>     believe they also (and this might be  how it is done in V1) when
>     backups run.  The expinterval might be to help get rid of files on
>     nodes that only backup once a month (or so)...?
>     One other thing you could try is (from an administrative session)
>     issue an "EXPIRE INVENTORY" and if it tells you that it is unknown
>     that would indicate it came to exist in V2.
>     Hope this helps.
>     later
>          Dwight
>
>
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>Subject: FW: database keeps growing??
>Author:  DSHARP (DSHARP AT clear.co DOT nz) at unix,mime
>Date:    3/17/97 11:27 PM
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>
>I kept this EMail that you sent ages ago because I wanted to ask you a
>question, that I've only just got round to.
>
>You mention checking the expire interval on the ADSM server.  I can't
>find anything in the manuals about this.  Is this a function of ADSM
>Server V2?   We are currently running V1 on MVS but are updating to V2
>soon.
>
>Dianne Sharp
>Operations Analyst
>CLEAR Communications, Auckland, New Zealand
>dsharp AT clear.co DOT nz
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>>From:  Dwight Cook[SMTP:decook AT AMOCO DOT COM]
>>Sent:  Wednesday, 04 December, 1996 1:03PM
>>To:    Multiple recipients of list ADSM-L
>>Subject:       Re: database keeps growing??
>>
>>Item Subject: database keeps growing??
>>     Well, I haven't read the other messages but...
>>     each backup/archive copy of a file takes 100+bytes (I forget the exact
>>     number) so that is your growth...
>>     Check your expire interval on your server... if it is 0 (zero) then
>>     you will have to manually trigger file expiration (which is best
>>     because then you controll when it happens) if it is 0 and you haven't
>>     triggered file expiration it doesn't matter how you have your policy
>>     domains set up because you are never deleting obsolete files...
>>     Could also be like I was doing at first... the expiration process was
>>     starting at poor times so I would just cancel the process... same
>>     thing, I wasn't trashing old old copies...
>>     I've got two servers rolling in a third currently and assembling a
>>     forth and fifth... but on the existing two one has a 2GB db and has
>>     6Terabytes of backup/archive's and the other has a 10GBdb and only
>>     4Terabytes of data  that is due to the first backing up SAP
>>     environments of large databases only(/mainly) and the second is
>>     backing up novell servers with A-BUH-ZILLION small, changing daily,
>>     multiply'n like mice, files on them... and ADSM being the fair backup
>>     system that it is uses just as much space keeping track of the 400
>>     byte file as it does tracking the 2GB file....
>>     Also how long are you keeping your activity log... ?  If you are
>>     keeping more than 7 days it would be better to dump it out to a flat
>>     file and archive it away on tape...
>>     Anyway, if I'm forgetting anything I sure someone else will catch it
>>     but I'm betting it is either the cold/hard/facts of the number of
>>     files being backed up OR the lack of housekeeping...
>>     GOOD LUCK :-)
>>     later
>>           Dwight
>>
>>
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>>Subject: database keeps growing??
>>Author:  ADSM-L at unix,sh/DD.RFC-822=ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>Date:    12/3/96 5:09 PM
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>>
>>First thank you all the response mails to me. They give me lots of help.
>>Our ADSM database is growing repidly. My question is the growing will
>>stop on certain size or will grow unlimited? Is there some way to reduce
>>the database size, or only add more space?
>>
>>We have sp2/aix 4.1 server and 23 nodes which is most OS/2s and unixs.
>>
>>Any comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>
>>Julie Xu
>>04/12/96
>>
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