A VTL vendor said he is seeing a number of mid-sized businesses migrating from TSM to NBU (Symantec). Do you think this is true? My concern is that the pool of support techs will shrink and put us in
Author: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:19:01 -0500
I'd say businesses are migrating in all kinds of directions. I'd think that you'd see some migrating from other products to TSM as well, however, it would be interesting to see current numbers. See Y
Author: "Remeta, Mark" <MRemeta AT SELIGMANDATA DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:42:49 -0400
Maybe it has something to do with IBM's recent audit of TSM licensee's. I know our management is seriously thinking of abandoning TSM due to cost. I'd say businesses are migrating in all kinds of dir
Author: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:49:08 -0500
Well, I would have to say as a recent victim of that process it did suck, (and yes I am toning it down). If IBM wants to audit the customer that's fine, but make sure the company you outsource that t
Author: "Hart, Charles A" <charles_hart AT UHC DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:54:09 -0500
To the point below, Twin Cities have been going from NBU to TSM... There's a shortage of TSM talent in the state on MN Maybe it has something to do with IBM's recent audit of TSM licensee's. I know o
Deduplicating VTLs fit better into NBU sites. TSM's progressive incremental methodology already reduces the data stream, making deduping VTLs less of a "win", though it can still be beneficial. My po
Author: "Gill, Geoffrey L." <GEOFFREY.L.GILL AT SAIC DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:11:15 -0700
We are still trying to get our minds around the crap we were sent by the auditors. What we were told in meetings and what actually happened turned out to be 180 out, and basically must have had the s
Author: "Colwell, William F." <bcolwell AT DRAPER DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:14:52 -0400
I have been configuring a new TSM server since last November. At first I wanted a VTL. But when I learned from the Oxford symposium presentations that TSM would have its own dedup in version 6, and c
Author: "Strand, Neil B." <NBStrand AT LMUS.LEGGMASON DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:36:42 -0400
The VTL can compliment a TSM installation where you have a real tape library (RTL) manager and RTL clients. Adding a LAN-Free agent to a RTL client is greatly simplified when the RTL client is also a
Author: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:37:27 -0500
Actually VTLs can still serve a good purpose with TSM. The ability of some to emulate a 3584 makes setup and management very easy, and some use disk MUCH more efficiently than TSM would just doing fi
Author: Timothy Hughes <Timothy.Hughes AT OIT.STATE.NJ DOT US>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:18:49 -0400
Is Version 6 going to be released this Year or Next? regards I have been configuring a new TSM server since last November. At first I wanted a VTL. But when I learned from the Oxford symposium presen
Author: "Colwell, William F." <bcolwell AT DRAPER DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:45:48 -0400
Timothy, I don't remember where I heard it and of course IBM can change it, but I heard it is scheduled for late this year. - bill Is Version 6 going to be released this Year or Next? regards Colwell
Author: Nicholas Rodolfich <nrodolfich AT EJGH DOT ORG>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:03:22 -0500
An IBM TSM person told me that TSM v6 will have db2 for its database and they are shootng for an announcement in October. Yeehaw!! Regards, Nicholas Rodolfich Network Administrator (AIX) East Jeffers
Author: "Evans, Bill" <billevans AT FHCRC DOT ORG>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:51 -0700
I have scheduled a presentation in our offices (Seattle) on TSM 6.1 soon, but here is what the sales folk are saying: " As a matter of fact there are some significant changes 'scheduled' to be incorp
Author: Hans Christian Riksheim <HCR AT STERIA DOT NO>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:32:11 +0200
We look at dedup VTL as a possible target for active storage pools containing ordinary file backup. This way we don't risk very much if the VTL breaks or the VTL's dedup index goes corrupt. I am a li
Author: Curtis Preston <cpreston AT GLASSHOUSE DOT COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:55:37 -0400
I agree with Howard. People move back and forth all the time. As an independent consultant with interaction with a lot of different products, we haven't seen a mass migration one way or another. -- W
Author: Curtis Preston <cpreston AT GLASSHOUSE DOT COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:03:19 -0400
deduping As I've said before, TSM's progressive incremental does tend to reduce the total dedupe ratio by about 50% (from an average of 20:1 to 10:1). There is still plenty of duplicate data between
Author: Curtis Preston <cpreston AT GLASSHOUSE DOT COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:13:08 -0400
Just to set realistic expectations... To date, no backup software vendor has offered dedupe that has anywhere near the speed that is offered by the VTL/IDT (intelligent disk target) market. The backu
Author: "Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:51:39 +0200
Yeehaw? Are you really waiting for an DB2 database? The TSM database is now very stable and hardly needs any attention. I'm running quite a few product over here which are using a pre-defined DB2 dat