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Re: [Veritas-bu] Destaging going slow

2010-06-29 15:13:00
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Destaging going slow
From: "Martin, Jonathan" <JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com>
To: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:12:49 -0400

First of all, suck it Neil Conner.  I’m about to disagree with Ed (again) and there is nothing you and your fish eating friends can do about it.

 

Gotten away with it? I’m not stealing bread from the supermarket, I’ve made a calculated decision. I run 18 MD1000s in this configuration globally and I have yet to lose an array. The added capacity and speed benefit of a 15 disk raid array (no hot spare) is plenty worth the risk of the array going down.  Further, this risk is mitigated with properly configured Dell OpenManage which alerts me immediately if a disk fails so I can have it replaced.

 

Sure, I may eventually lose an array, but this is backup data. It’s importance to most businesses is somewhere between Dev and QA, and if I were (worst case scenario) to lose a Raid5 and 10TB of backup data, then I’d inform the appropriate application groups and move on. It’s not like most of the data isn’t probably ok (backup not needed) or on tape (array not needed) or has incremental available (also on tape.) This isn’t a production database or file server, it’s backups, IMO, Ed’s “every bit counts” attitude is completely out of step with the real world.

 

-Jonathan

 

PS: I do agree with Ed about 1TB disks, but in my case because of the poor performance not the raid implications. 15 x 500GB SATA in a Raid-5 is the backbone of my  operation.

 

From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:09 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Destaging going slow

 

 

From a storage perspective, I've got all disks in a Dell MD1000 enclosure configured in a single 15 disk RAID-5.



Don't ever do this.  Jonathan has obviously gotten away with this (so far) but using large drives (e.g. 1TB) in a 15-member RAID-5 set is just asking to lose the array due to a double-disk failure.

I've done several recoveries for our Windows Server Team because they're configured large RAID-5 sets and had double-disk failures.

   ../Ed

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE
ewilts AT ewilts DOT org

 

 

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