Re: [Veritas-bu] Retaining Date for 20 years+
2010-05-19 10:53:39
True, this could happen, but then it comes back to "what do
they do with the Data or how could they read it, if they have just chucked and
disposed of their old equipment, that was running the apps in the first
place?!
Begs the question ... Why did they bother ! :( And
probably explains why they are disposing of it now!! So I guess I should leave
them to it.
If you have a drive, you can use
tar to read the tapes (little more work if they are
multiplexed.)
I am in the process of duplicating
about 100 SDLT tapes to LTO4’s. – I have kept an SDLT tape drive attached
to the master because I have long term tapes. Once I get the dups done I
can get rid of that drive.
Of course you always have to
option to find a recovery company that does just that, gets data off of old
media.
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stefanos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:49 AM To:
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Date for 20 years+
Well,
netbackup
is using tar to write and read to the tape. If you not use multiplexing, and you
know what is on what tape, then you can restore backups without
netbackup.
I
have come in front of many companies that have 15 years backups and they try to
find a travan tape drive (or other) and the software to read the tapes.
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Simon (external) Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:39 AM To:
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[Veritas-bu] Retaining Date for 20 years+
Hi Mark
Thanks for this. Yes, this is one method, but what about a backup
solution - ie: now 20 years out of date, no media, no server to restore to and
in a format unknown to todays backup systems.
What would you do then? :-)
the client does not seem bothered, and is happy to destroy the Data.
But if you are a banking client or someone that needs access to 20+ yr Data,
then surely your planning has to account for this? Or maybe another
solution?
Simon
From: Mark Phillips
[mailto:Mark.Phillips AT unisa.edu DOT au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010
7:37 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external);
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: RE: Retaining Date for 20
years+
Simon,
A couple of years ago we retired DLT IV and LTO1 drives, going to a
library with LTO4 drives only.
I used bpimmedia to work out which images were on the old media then
bpduplicate to duplicate all long term retention images that were on the
old DLT IV and LTO1 media to LTO3 or LTO4 tapes.
Mark
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Simon (external) Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 3:50 PM To:
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for 20 years+
Morning Guys Not exactly a problem, but a question.
I started to do work for a small firm that has been removing legacy
old kit and media as its 15+ years out of date (example: PC's acting as Servers,
DDS tape drives, 3M Data Cartridges, (mini ones too!! amnd legacy Unix
systems.
Now, what I was puzzled about is "how would they go about restoring
this Data?", considering most of the Technology has just been removed / phased
out.
It got me thinking that we have 5 - 10+ year retention of Tapes for
NetBackup on LTO1 tapes but no means of loading it, you do not have high hopes
of restoring it. Unless you obtain an LTO1 drive. But say 30 years down the
line..... then what! Chances are, NetBackup may not read it, or worse.... No
NetBackup environment at all ! (Similar to the client who was using their own
standard 1990's backup software that is no longer produced and in a format that
cannot be read!)
So really, curious how people would "protect" those essential years
of Data?
Regards
Simon
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