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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can you reassure my understanding.

2009-06-02 16:38:01
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Can you reassure my understanding.
From: "Mark Glazerman" <Mark.Glazerman AT spartech DOT com>
To: "John Nardello" <john.nardello AT wamu DOT net>, <dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net>, <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:34:53 -0500
We tested this and you are right that you will likely run into problems doing 
an entire system restore via netbackup.  Even with the best will in the world, 
there is bound to be some kind of configuration file which will mess things up 
on the running system during the restore.  Will the servers at site 2 be the 
same architecture / patch level / NICS etc ?  Unless you have everything 100% 
the same you'll run into snags.  Also... make sure that when you lay the data 
down you don't lay down the Netbackup files or you'll hose your restore (as we 
found out !!).

If the servers will have identical names and IP's etc... why not just build 
them as if they were the servers in your home data center but with duplicate 
(but empty) file systems.  In a DR situation all you'd need to restore would be 
your data files into those empty filesystems.  The OS stuff would be as if they 
were your servers in your home data center.

Mark Glazerman
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of John 
Nardello
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:37 PM
To: dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Can you reassure my understanding.

Most servers get really ticked off if you try to overwrite the running OS files 
- assuming they'll let you do it at all. Probably because an overwrite is 
effectively a delete and then create. So great, what happens when you restore 
that critical library file that Solaris was using to run ? Or heck, when you 
restore bpbkar ? Or inetd ? 

If the CSA guy refuses to back down though, no sweat, ask for a proof of 
concept test. "Let's see what really happens when we do it this way." If only 
because it ought to be fun to see exactly how messed up the destination server 
gets. =) And don't sign off on it as the full DR method until you get one. 

Bare metal restores != file-level restores.

- John Nardello

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Dave 
Markham
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:50 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Can you reassure my understanding.

Guys i'm after a bit of backup as am perhaps doubting myself now.

I'm having a bit of a row with a CSA (solutions architect) at our company.

A backup design has been done where 2 sites have Solaris clients 
configured with the same name and ip, and one site is just disconnected 
from the network.
There is a Netbackup Server  6.5.3 (Windows) which backs up the 
connected clients from site 1.

What they want for a DR test is this :-

1. Disconnect the clients from site1 on the network.
2. Enable the network connections of clients on site2 (with same name 
and ip of site1 clients)
3. Restore to the running Solaris server through netbackup of a client 
image taken on site 1.

My understanding was you wouldn't ever try and restore a whole system 
from file system based backups to a running solaris OS. Is that correct 
still?

I also can see all sorts of problems having the client names the same 
and same ips. Arp tables etc. I'd personally have the client names 
referenced differently in Netbackup regardless of the hostnames which 
could be the same?

Cheers
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