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Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec Sys Recovery 8.5 or NetBackup 6.x

2009-05-12 02:16:57
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec Sys Recovery 8.5 or NetBackup 6.x
From: Brendan Clover <Brendan.Clover AT unisa.edu DOT au>
To: "WEAVER, Simon (external)" <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net>, Simon Weaver <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:43:25 +0930

Hi Simon,

 

We run a Samba share on the disk storage on one of our Red Hat Netbackup media servers, our BESR jobs are configured to write to this location.  We then backup the disk to tape.

 

One thing I didn’t mention earlier is that BESR only runs on Windows servers, BMR on the other hand can be configured for Windows, linux and Solaris servers.

 

Regards,

 

Brendan Clover

Information Technologist

Systems Infrastructure
University of South Australia
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From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 3:28 PM
To: Brendan Clover; Simon Weaver
Cc: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec Sys Recovery 8.5 or NetBackup 6.x

 

Cheers Brendon for this info!

Its nice to see some differences, but if BESR is going to be used for StandAlone Networks, then maybe it could find a place in a NetBackup environment.

 

Will do some testing :-)

 

Have you any documentation or any other advice to offer in terms of BESR? I assume you have NetBackup ?

Simon

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Brendan Clover
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:51 AM
To: Simon Weaver
Cc: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec Sys Recovery 8.5 or NetBackup 6.x

Hi Simon

 

BESR and BMR work quite differently.  BESR creates a complete image of the hard drive which can be restored via the BESR recovery disk and the server is usable again.   BMR stores server specific information (e.g. registry) on tape but requires another server with the OS files on it.  A BMR restore is done from the Netbackup Console, once initiated it gathers the required information from tape, combines with the OS data stored on the recovery server and pushes it to the server being restored.

 

BESR is much easier to set up and can be managed through a central management console (although this is a separate purchase) but has its quirks and the service occasionally hangs on the client (although this seems to be greatly reduced with 8.5) meaning that backups aren’t run.  I haven’t tested BMR yet, it is one of those when I get time projects, but have been advised by Symantec that it is more reliable than BESR.

 

The other thing with BESR is backups can take a while and consequently I would only recommend it for the system partition/drive.  For example our Windows 2008 servers have a 30Gb System drive and are using around 15Gb of that, the backup can take 20 – 30 minutes.  

 

Regards,

 

Brendan Clover

Information Technologist

Systems Infrastructure
University of South Australia
Phone: +61 8 830 23641

Fax: +61 8 830 25800

 

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From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 6:28 AM
To: Simon Weaver
Cc: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec Sys Recovery 8.5 or NetBackup 6.x

 

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Simon Weaver <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net> wrote:

 

So on the basis it was included with 6.5, it should do the same or in fact similar job to BE System Recovery ?

Not had chance to try or even see this in action.


I have never used BE System Recovery nor have I actually gotten around to setting up BMR yet so I don't know how they compare.
 

 

You say it needs to be installed seperately.... I assume you mean license key?


License key plus mucho configuration.
 

 


From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org]
Sent: 11 May 2009 21:43
To: Simon Weaver
Cc: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec Sys Recovery 8.5 or NetBackup 6.x

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Simon Weaver <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net> wrote:

As I understand it, the "BMR" feature is part of the 6.x suite. So if they upgrade from 5.1 to 6.x they are going to get the features of 6.x plus BMR?


The license was included starting with 6.5.  It still needs to be installed separately.
 

    .../Ed

 

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