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Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

2009-03-18 03:56:00
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication
From: "W. Curtis Preston" <wcplists1 AT gmail DOT com>
To: "'Jeff Lightner'" <jlightner AT water DOT com>, "'Wilcox, Donald A \(GE, Research\)'" <wilcox AT ge DOT com>, "'jeff kaplan'" <m3bnet AT hotmail DOT com>, <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:25:25 -0700

Actually, TOP said he had backed up to an EDL/3DL (EMC Quantum box). 

 

Jeff (Kaplan),

 

Is it possible to use tape shadowing on the replicated system, so that the backup to one virtual tape, replicate to another virtual tape, then eject that virtual tape to create a physical tape? 

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:34 AM
To: Wilcox, Donald A (GE, Research); jeff kaplan; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

 

Of course.  Deduplicated information is only that information that is not already duplicated somewhere else on the storage device.   Once you copy the image using bpduplicate to a tape there is no other copy of the information (so far as the tape is concerned) so obviously it would create a whole backup using duplicated and non-duplicated information from the Data Domain to create it.

 

However, I didn’t see anything by OP that suggested he was looking to save deduped information to a tape.  I read his post as meaning:

“There is a backup that went to Data Domain – we would now like to have a tape copy of the backup.” 

 

The only real trick in what he wrote is how to get the information from the remote Data Domain to the local one.   Since we don’t do the remote setup here (we use vaulting to duplicate the local one to tape) I don’t know exactly how that mechanism works.   It may be automatic simply by requesting a bpduplicate of the image or it may require some step on the Data Domain itself.   I feel confident however that there is a way to get the data from remote to onsite.  Otherwise having a remote unit would be worse than useless.

 

 


From: Wilcox, Donald A (GE, Research) [mailto:wilcox AT ge DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:19 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; jeff kaplan; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

 

It is my understanding that Data Domain deduplicated images get blown back up before going to tape, thereby losing the deduplication.

 

Donald Wilcox
1 Research Circle (KWC124B)
Niskayuna, New York 12309

Email: wilcox AT ge DOT com
Office: 518 387-6856

 

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:02 AM
To: jeff kaplan; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

If NBU can see it then you can use the bpduplicate command to copy the image from Data Domain to tape.

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of jeff kaplan
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:07 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] dedup/replication

Hello-
 
Without using OST, is there a way to get a physical tape copy from a deduped/replicated image?
We have a local EDL/3DL replicating (de-duped data) to a remote EDL/3DL. We need to get a physical tape from the remote copy, but it has to NBU-aware.
 
Thanks in advance!


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