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Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. Netbackup forums-Was: sniff...bpgpisgone from 6.5
2008-04-09 11:18:23
You guys robbing the fun by turning this in to a Unix VS Windows. Can we get back to our discussion about "Old Farts" ? :)
-Shyam
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:33 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) < simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> wrote:
Well I am in Windows all the time
;-)
You guys spend WAY to much time in
cold, loud rooms with no windows! ;-)
An old fart has spoken blasphemy against the master!
Microsoft disciples unite to protect the precious! Those evil Unix
Jedi won't get the better of us this time! Counter their system stability
and anti-trust legislation with systems that populate like rabbits and so much
money we wipe our buts with it! What? Solaris doing to Intel
processors? Community based Linux support and learning? Fire
marketing campaigns alpha, beta and gamma! Open engineering centers in
China, India and Taiwan!! Long live Bill Gates! -Jonathan
From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:14 AM
To: Clem
Kruger; Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts
Cc: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim
Horalek; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu]
Auburn vs. Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgpisgone from 6.5
Lumping in a
marketer like Bill Gates with TECHNICAL experts like Dennis Ritchie is plain
silly. Bill didn't "create" anything – he saw an opportunity when IBM came
knocking and bought QDOS to resell to IBM. (We won't talk about the fact
that QDOS was pretty much believed to be a knock off of CP/M). After DOS
became the main OS for IBM PC compatible systems he was able to force much of
the rest of the world into dependence on his other products not by their
technical superiority but by practices that got the DOJ in the U.S. to start an
anti-trust action against him and the E.U. which has now judged it as
monopolistic twice. By the way – I'm
pretty sure it was us old farts that were joking about old farts.
From: Clem Kruger
[mailto:Clem AT re-thinking-it DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:58
AM
To: Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts; Jeff Lightner
Cc:
Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek;
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs.
Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from 6.5 Good day
all y'all,
Can someone please explain what am "old fart"
is? There are only 3 certainties in life, death, taxes and change.
The last two we can control but death started the day we were born.
Those of you who used the term "Old Fart", just
remember one day you will wake up and find yourself much older and then you too
will be offended by being called an old fart! The changes we have seen through the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and now the
21st century has made us better people and most of all we (old farts)
are disciplined. You needed to drop a try of cards once to understand
discipline. Will you be remembered when you
are gone? The old farts Bill Gates, Dennis Ritchie, Ken Thompson and many others
will be. Do you know why? Because they were the pioneers, because all we had was
a pair of pliers and some wire. We never had
memory leaks because could not waste memory. Go and learn assembler and find out
what a thrill it is to do so much with very little. I just hope that you are fit in mind and body when it is your turn to be
called an "old fart" so that you can ask yourself "did I leave any foot prints
others can follow"? I took offence, but now
enjoy remembering the program sheets, the cards and ticker tape. The something
we made from nothing. It is great to say we were part of the pioneers and just
hope the pioneering spirit will continue. Enjoy your life and have some compassion. Regards,
Clem.
From:
veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu on behalf of Haskins,
Steve
Sent: Wed 2008/04/09 05:19 AM
To: Ed Wilts; Jeff
Lightner
Cc: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek;
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs.
Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from 6.5 And programming on punch cards…Oh, what FUN!
From:
veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ed
Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:50 PM
To: Jeff
Lightner
Cc: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek;
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs
Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner AT water DOT com> wrote:
We now prefer to be called
Chronologically Mature Methane Producers or ChMMPs (NOT to be pronounced as
Chimps so as not offend the Evolutinarilly Challenged…)
An old fart like me can't remember a name *that*
long. I can remember paper tape though...
.../Ed (hiding out at SNW in the state that defines
old)
--
Ed Wilts, Mounds
View, MN, USA
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