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Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

2008-03-28 13:40:51
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
From: "Jeff Lightner" <jlightner AT water DOT com>
To: <VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:18:09 -0400
This thread didn't really start with the merits or lack thereof of
Riverbed products.

It started with SPAM for Riverbed products.   

It hardly seems reasonable to me to reward such SPAM by extolling the
virtues of products of the company for whom the SPAM was shilling.  

Even if you do think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread it would
be best to hold those opinions until a valid post that would trigger
recommendations of Riverbed rather than replying in this SPAM thread.


-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ambrose,
Monte
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:53 PM
To: Curtis Preston; Martin, Jonathan; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

We use riverbed in many sites but not specifically for Backup/Restore. I
did test it with NetBackup and it performed quite well.   The nice thing
about Riverbed is that you can use it for other applications that
transfer data as well.  If you use a point product like PureDisk for
backups then you only get the de-dupe/compression for the backup.  We
use PureDisk and it works quite well for this purpose.  The down side I
see to Riverbed is that you must install a hardware device on both ends.
Its sometimes easier to just install the backup app on the systems that
need to be backed up.  - Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Curtis
Preston
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:48 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

Right.  That's what I've heard -- that it's a great WAN-acceleration
product.  What I haven't bought off on, though, is this concept of "just
use your regular backup software and pretend like these hosts aren't on
the other side of the planet and back them up across the WAN."

I usually keep opinions like this to myself.  The SPAM thing just made
me feel like

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies

> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-
> bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:28 AM
> To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
>
>
> I dislike spam too, but lets not go throwing the Riverbed product
under
> the bus because of it. =P
>
> We did a pretty thorough analysis of the Riverbed product versus three
> major competitors two years ago and found that *by far* Riverbed was
the
> best "WAN Acceleration" device on the market.  We've since deployed
them
> to just about every remote site we have globally.  I haven't seen this
> "Riverbed Copy Utility" and when we implemented the point was *not* to
do
> remote backups - rather to speed up the movement of data from
centralized
> datacenters to various remote offices (which the product does very
well,
> with various SMB, NFS and MAPI requests.)  Their product also
> significantly lessened the time it takes to replicate data to DR.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu on behalf of Curtis
> Preston
> Sent: Wed 3/26/2008 1:28 AM
> To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
>
>
>
> Message and poster dealt with.
>
> I don't normally post my personal opinions about products, but for
some
> reason right now I feel inspired.
>
> I don't get the whole Riverbed thing.  I don't see any advantages in
the
> backup arena over using a more standard dedupe appliance or dedupe
> backup software, and I see a few disadvantages.
>
> Riverbed, if you're listening, you haven't made a friend today by
using
> my website to post SPAM, but I am willing to listen if you want to
> convince me otherwise.
>
> ---
> W. Curtis Preston
> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-
> > bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Mark.Donaldson AT cexp 
> > DOT com
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:57 AM
> > To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
> >
> > FYI: abuse@backupcentral notified, management at Riverbed
Technologies
> > notified.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
> > rubbyfiller
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:59 AM
> > To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
> >
> >
> > Performing backups at every remote site is complicated, expensive
and
> > risky too. Doing backup across the WAN is easier, reliable, and more
> > secure.
> >
> > Have you experimented Riverbed Copy Utility (RCU)?
> > It would be a great fit.
> > By overcoming bandwidth limitations and reducing network latency,
> > Riverbed's WDS facilitates network-based backup approaches in most
of
> > the customer environments. Riverbed technology optimizes:
> > 1.    Centralized backup and recovery of servers and desktop
machines
> > in remote offices
> > 2.    Replication of centralized data repositories between data
> > centers
> >
> > in your distributed enterprise for backing up large amounts of data.
> > RCU for disaster recovery can also be used for your remote backup
> > solution just as effectively.
> >
> > http://www.wdsforum.org/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=10
> >
> >
>
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> > |This was sent by rubbyfiller AT gmail DOT com via Backup Central.
> > |Forward SPAM to abuse AT backupcentral DOT com.
> >
>
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> >
> >
> >
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