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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?

2008-02-04 15:18:05
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?
From: "Bobby Williams" <bobbyrjw AT comcast DOT net>
To: "'Justin Piszcz'" <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:01:48 -0500
You could do inline tape copies and send 1 each to the other sites.

You can ftp the image info across the LAN and not have to import.

Tech Doc 266673 was the doc detailing how to move image data between master
servers. 




Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson Drive
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421
423-296-8200

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:00 PM
To: Bobby Williams
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Question: Is this possible?



On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Bobby Williams wrote:

> You can't do it with master servers, but you can with media servers.
>
> Assuming that you have the band width on an environment with fiber to 
> multiple sites.
Arg, looking to have 3 separate environments ideally..

>
> You could expand on this, but I am going to only work with 2 sites.
>
> This works in a 5.X environment.
>
> Site A  has production data
> Site B  has Dev/QA data and is the Alternate site.
>
> Assume that each has SAN attached tape drives and A SAN can be zoned 
> to B SAN devices and the tape devices are in either a stand alone 
> robot or a robot that can be partitioned.
Arg again!  No SAN/fiber switches here, direct-attached (hence why the
master-server is what I am looking at).

>
> At site A, employ a Media server (call it media-dual) that is 
> controlled by the master at Site B.  The media server should have 
> multiple NIC's so that it can communicate with the master at Site B 
> and also communicate with the clients at site A.
I thought of this as well, but for other reasons, having a master control
its own site actually turned out to be the best and having the clients from
the other backup to it (aka cross-site)

>
> For critical information, back up the info with the master-B via
media-dual.
> Back it up to the drives at site A in case you need to do a restore or
> create a dssu at site A for these backups.  Duplicate or de-stage the
> backups from media-dual to drives configured at site B.
Yeah I can kind of see this working..

>
> If site A goes away, you have the backups of the critical data (say the
> systems with an RPO of 1-4 hours) at Site B and just start restoring to
the
> alternate site recovery system (because the Site B master did the backup).
> You would have to restore with the force restore option.  If you used a
DSSU
> for the backup, you would have to promote the secondary copy to the
primary
> copy (this dings me every time).  If you are duplicating tapes from A-B,
> then promote the copy during duplication or wait until you need a DR
> restore.
Understood..

>
> A client initiated restore of this data may not be possible depending on
> whether or not your networks are linked.  A master server does not have to
> communicate with a client.  Only the media server has to communicate with
a
> client.  However, bplist or bp from the client is not possible unless the
> client can communicate with the master.
Yes.

A lot of this though stems from the fact I cannot do what I really want to 
do, it is almost if the _real_ work around is just have the client backup 
the data twice (if you wanted to be protected from a dual-site failure?)

clientA -> site B
clientB -> site C

Justin.

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