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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 21, Issue 19 Mac issue with 10.5

2008-01-16 14:35:22
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 21, Issue 19 Mac issue with 10.5
From: Rob Whalen <rwhalen AT stmarys-ca DOT edu>
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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:06:41 -0800
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>    1. Re: NBU overwriting data on Tape (Randy Samora)
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> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:02:13 -0600
> From: "Randy Samora" <Randy.Samora AT stewart DOT com>
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
> To: <ANIL555 AT MAURYA DOT US>, <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
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> Without an inventory being run, NetBackup wouldn't know the tape was
> there so it shouldn't overwrite it.  If you are putting a "full tape" in
> the library, I'm assuming the tape is being used for a restore?  If so,
> write protecting the tape seems to be the easiest solution.  The only
> other reason I can think of to put a full tape back into the library is
> so that you can reuse it in which case you want NBU to overwrite it.  Or
> maybe I'm missing something.
>
> Thanks,
> Randy
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> Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
>
> Hi
> We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
> accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
> after putting full tape in library.
>                                  If that is true, how can we avoide ?
> Your help is very much appreciated.
>
> THX
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> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:00:08 -0600,
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>>    1. which clients datas on which tape (POUSSARD, Gilles (APX
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>>    2. Re: Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup (Murtuja Khokhar)
>>    3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen)
>>    4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100
>> From: "POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\)" <gilles.poussard AT airbus DOT com>
>> Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape
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>>      Hello,
>>
>>      Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
>>     
> tape.
>   
>>      For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
>>     
> located with which retentions
>   
>>      Thanks for your help.
>>
>>      Gilles.
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Murtuja Khokhar <murtuja_oracle AT yahoo DOT com>
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
>> To: ratheesh.das AT mindspeed DOT com, Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
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>> All,
>>    
>>   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions
>>    
>>    
>>   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
>>   I have specified SBT_TAPE
>>
>> ratheesh.das AT mindspeed DOT com wrote:
>>   
>> Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
>> SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>>
>> Ratheesh R Das
>> M I N D S P E E D Technologies
>> Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
>> ratheesh.das AT mindspeed DOT com
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>>
>>
>>         Murtuja Khokhar <murtuja_oracle AT yahoo DOT com> 
>> Sent by: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu   01/11/2008 06:14
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> PM 
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>>             To
>>   Michael Graff Andersen <mian71 AT gmail DOT com>,
>>   Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu       cc
>>         Subject
>>   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
>>           
>>
>>
>>
>> No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
>>
>> Michael Graff Andersen <mian71 AT gmail DOT com> wrote: 
>> Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
>> e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael
>>
>> 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas
>>>       
> Netbackup
>   
>>> master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server.
>>>
>>> Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs.
>>>
>>> But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So how I can
>>>       
> do this.
>   
>>> Some more information
>>>
>>> Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit)
>>> Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition
>>> Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4
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>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:08:39 +0100
>> From: "Michael Graff Andersen" <mian71 AT gmail DOT com>
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape
>> To: "POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)" <gilles.poussard AT airbus DOT com>
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>> Hello
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>> Think than bpimagelist -client <CLIENT_NAME> -media -U or -L will give
>> some of what you want
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>> Regards
>> Michael
>>
>> 2008/1/14, POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)
>>     
> <gilles.poussard AT airbus DOT com>:
>   
>>>        Hello,
>>>
>>>        Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on
>>>       
> which tape.
>   
>>>        For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
>>>       
> located with which retentions
>   
>>>        Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>>        Gilles.
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:11:22 -0500
>> From: Don Klebba <donklebba AT quickenloans DOT com>
>> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Leopard clients
>> To: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
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>> I recently upgraded one of my Mac clients from Mac OS 10.4.11 to
>>     
> 10.5.1
>   
>> (Leopard). I'm running netbackup 6.5.1 on both the master server and
>>     
> the
>   
>> Mac
>> client. The Mac client was able to backup before going to 10.5.1., now
>> I'm
>> getting 54 errors, unable to connect to client. I'm no longer able to
>> telnet
>> to port 13782 on the Mac.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on how I can resolve this?
>> -- 
>> Don Klebba
>> Quicken Loans
>> Storage Management Team
>> DonKlebba AT quickenloans DOT com <mailto:DonKlebba AT quickenloans DOT com>
>> phone: (734)805-7791
>> cell: (734)634-7486 
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:25:00 -0600
>> From: <mikemclain AT northwesternmutual DOT com>
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Leopard clients
>> To: <donklebba AT quickenloans DOT com>, <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn 
>> DOT edu>
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>> Don,
>>
>> With the release of OS X 10.5, Apple removed all functionality of
>>     
> inetd
>   
>> (and others) and replaced it with its launchd process.   Below is a
>>     
> link
>   
>> to read more information about launchd.      With the removal of
>>     
> inetd,
>   
>> the bpcd and vnetd process no longer listen on their respective ports
>> based on a 10.4 config.  
>>
>>
>>     
> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.21/21.06/launchd/index.html 
>   
>> At last check, Symantec currently doesn't provide support for 10.5.
>> They will have to create "plist" entries for the NBU client processes
>>     
> to
>   
>> replace the /etc/inetd.conf definitions.  
>>
>>
>>     
> http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
>   
>> _Server/278064.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike McLain
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Don
>> Klebba
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:11 AM
>> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Leopard clients
>>
>> I recently upgraded one of my Mac clients from Mac OS 10.4.11 to
>>     
> 10.5.1
>   
>> (Leopard). I'm running netbackup 6.5.1 on both the master server and
>>     
> the
>   
>> Mac
>> client. The Mac client was able to backup before going to 10.5.1., now
>> I'm
>> getting 54 errors, unable to connect to client. I'm no longer able to
>> telnet
>> to port 13782 on the Mac.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on how I can resolve this?
>> -- 
>> Don Klebba
>> Quicken Loans
>> Storage Management Team
>> DonKlebba AT quickenloans DOT com <mailto:DonKlebba AT quickenloans DOT com>
>> phone: (734)805-7791
>> cell: (734)634-7486 
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> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:06:22 -0500
> From: "Paul Keating" <pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca>
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
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> Even if you did update the inventory, if the tape has not been expired
> (images no longer valid) Netbackup will know about the data and not
> overwrite the tape.
>
> The only issue would be if you had a tape that had already expired,
> which you put into the library to restore from.
>
> You would have to do an import on the tape before you could restore from
> it, so in the timeframe between injecting the tape in the library, and
> doing the import, there is a small window during which Netbackup could
> overwrite the tape, assuming you did not write protect or freeze the
> cart.
>
>
> Sounds like a TSM zealot spreading FUD about NBU.
>
> Paul
>
>   

Don,
You might look into launchd, the new startup config for 10.5. Something 
may have been installed to work from inetd and now needs to be 
reconfigured to run from launchd.
Just Google launchd.
Rob

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