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Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

2007-09-10 17:31:08
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
To: Curtis Preston <cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:16:54 -0400 (EDT)
Anyone here using a 10gigabit VTL/DSU unit?

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Curtis Preston wrote:

> Your sales rep is saying the right thing (pay per TB) and the other
> sales rep is off base (pay per drive).  I'm also saying don't shoot the
> messenger, but any sales rep who is saying that a 6.x drive-based
> license is valid for a VTL obviously hasn't read the licensing guide.
>
> This is what happens when you have a 50-page+ pricing schema.
>
> ---
> W. Curtis Preston
> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
> Forester, Jack L
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:54 PM
> To: Kevin Whittaker; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
>
> That's the opposite of what our Symantec rep and resellers told us.
> We're getting 2 EDL4400s and are paying by the TB.  Not sure why
> Symantec feels they're entitled to it, I think maybe Symantec has hired
> some former RIAA execs.
>
> Jack L. Forester, Jr.
> UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
> Lockheed Martin Information Technology
> (304) 625-3946
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Whittaker
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:18 PM
> To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
>
> I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do
> not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720).  Since it is presented as a
> real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot.
>
> So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the
> setup.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Jim
> Horalek
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM
> To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
>
> 6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per
> TB.
> Above 20TB the discount gets greater.
>
> Under Traditonal Model 6.5
> $995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO)
>
> $0 DSU Free
> $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced
> Disk and SharedDisk)
>
> Enterprise Model 6.5
> $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS
> Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need.
> FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of
> redundant data.
>
>
> Netbackup 6.0
> $1000 per TB VTL
>
>
> Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know.
> Need Tape or VTL for NDMP.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of dy018
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 AM
> To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
>
>
>
> Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone
> here did a compare between the both?
>
> I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want
> to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks
>
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