Symantec changed the rules. VLT's are capacity based only.
Part of their "original" reasoning was it was getting too expensive since
people wanted far more expansion licenses.
You may fall under Grandfather rules however. 

Don't flame me. Licensing this stuff is hard enough.

Agreed Netbackup can't tell the difference.
Generally Symantec doesn't care, as long as your trying to keep things
licensed.

Per 6.5 pricing guide
NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive
NetBackup support for physical tape drives controlled by a robotic library
is licensed per physical tape drive; regardless of the manufacturer, type of
device, or number of servers attached to the library. There is no charge for
stand-alone, nonrobotic tape drives directly attached to a NetBackup
Master/Media Server or NetBackup Server.
This is not applicable to licensing virtual tape libraries (VTLs). Please
see the Virtual Tape Library Option for that type of functionality.
Product Description License per MSRP NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive Per
Robotic Controlled Tape Drive $3,000

NetBackup Virtual Tape Option
NetBackup Virtual Tape Option enables support for 3rd party virtual tape
offerings and is licensed per terabyte of virtual capacity. Note that in the
move to virtual capacity is a change from 6.0 where the Virtual Tape Option
was licensed based on "usable capacity". With virtual capacity customers
only need to license the amount of capacity they would like to use, not the
maximum capacity their VTL device may hold. For example, if a customer's VTL
can hold a maximum of 100TB but the customer will only be using 50TB this
year, they may choose to only license 50TB of virtual capacity. If they
later use more than 50TB they must purchase additional licenses.
. NetBackup support for 3rd party virtual tape offerings
. Supports unlimited number of virtual tape drives
. Includes sharing of virtual tape drives; no SSO license required

Product Description License per MSRP
NetBackup Virtual Tape Option 1 TB of virtual capacity $995
NetBackup Virtual Tape Option for MAID Devices 1 TB of virtual capacity $495

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Kevin
Whittaker
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:18 PM
To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU


I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do not
have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720).  Since it is presented as a real robot
to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot.

So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the
setup.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Jim 
Horalek
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM
To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU

6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per TB.
Above 20TB the discount gets greater.

Under Traditonal Model 6.5
$995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO) 

$0 DSU Free
$995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced Disk
and SharedDisk)

Enterprise Model 6.5
$11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS
Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need.
FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of
redundant data.


Netbackup 6.0
$1000 per TB VTL


Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know.
Need Tape or VTL for NDMP.

Jim


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU



Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone
here did a compare between the both?

I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to
implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks

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