Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions
2007-07-23 11:32:41
Hi,
The quickest way to solve this would be to get all the
details of Images/tapes, then you can write a simple
shell script with inputs of bexpdate, Images/Tapes and
extention period.
Pavan
--- Brandon Zermeno <Brandon.Zermeno AT Pulte DOT com> wrote:
> There are certain environments here that require
> only a 2 week
> retention, no matter what. In this environment we
> run full backups
> everyday and when the data set is in the 80 TB
> range, well that just
> more then I need to deal with. We have been running
> this way for years
> with no major issues. Leave it up to Oracle to take
> 2 weeks 4 hours to
> try and fix RAC.
>
>
>
> From: Curtis Preston
> [mailto:cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:10 PM
> To: Brandon Zermeno;
> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] retentions
>
>
>
> How about setting a longer retention period and
> _expiring_ backups if
> the conditions you're looking for have happened?
>
>
>
> As long as I'm at it, I think a two week retention
> period is crazy. You
> should always have AT LEAST three full cycles.
> (IOW, if you're doing a
> full backup every week, I think you should have at
> least a three week
> retention period.) My preference would be at least
> a month for database
> backups and 90 days for filesystem backups.
>
>
>
> As to what other products do...
>
>
>
> NetWorker won't expire a full backup if there are
> incremental backups
> based on it. In your case, they would/could have
> expired too and the
> oldest full might have expired.
>
>
>
> TSM doesn't expiration like this. It keeps
> versions, and does not think
> the way these products think unless you force it to.
> I therefore think
> that TSM wouldn't have done what NetWorker did.
>
>
>
> Did I mention that a two week retention period is
> too short? ;)
>
>
>
> ---
>
> W. Curtis Preston
>
> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
>
> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]
> On Behalf Of Brandon
> Zermeno
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:51 PM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] retentions
>
>
>
> We had an issue where was server was down for over 2
> weeks and the last
> full backups expired. The retention for this
> environment is 2 weeks.
> After the tapes expired the App team decided they
> wanted to restore. Now
> management wants Veritas to extend the retention
> period automatically if
> a full is not successfully run. I do not know of any
> company that has
> this capability so I am looking for ideas. I do not
> think it would be
> possible for a person to manually track all the
> servers and their last
> full and then manually bpexpdate the images. I have
> pushed back with the
> question of why was this server allowed to be down
> for 2 weeks but
> nobody is answering.
>
>
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