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Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows 2003

2007-07-13 15:01:05
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows 2003
From: "Nardello, John" <john.nardello AT wamu DOT net>
To: "Curtis Preston" <cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>, "Ed Wilts" <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:21:54 -0700
And after it's been documented, you'll be adding a chapter in your next
book that covers it in detail? =)  

- John Nardello


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Curtis
Preston
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:41 AM
To: Ed Wilts
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
2003

I said it was a try. ;)  My idea was to start a discussion, not solve
the problem in one email. 

I think your comment is confusing two issues:
* Moving from Unix -> Windows
* Changing the name of the master server

They are two very different problems.  Try to do them both at once, and
you'll have a mess.  In my message, I was only trying to do the former,
not the latter.  The latter is also an oft-discussed issue, but there's
an unsupported doc from Symantec about how to do it.  I think there
should be an unsupported doc on how to deal with this issue.  It's been
done.  It's been done hundreds of times.  Let's document it already and
get it out there.

As to "if you have to ask, then you don't have the skill," I understand
what you're saying, but I don't agree with it.  I'd say "if you don't
understand the process, then don't try it."  Or "If you haven't tested
the process every way back and forth, then don't do it."  Or "Don't you
dare use the new server until you've verified that everything made it
over."

As I said in another post, it's all about those line feeds, and in some
cases the endian issue.  If you know what to do when, you could do it.
All I'm trying to see is if we can get someone to talk about what they
did when to see if we can get this sucker documented.


---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:01 PM
To: Curtis Preston
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
2003

Nice try, but I hope nobody follows the template below.  Having been
heavily
involved in a Windows to Solaris migration back in 3.4, I can tell you
it's
a lot more complicated than this.  If you have to ask for how to do this
migration, honestly, you don't have the skills to complete it.  

The short answer is to get professional help.  If you don't know what
you're
doing, you'll corrupt the works, lose backups as you revert, and
generally
create a huge mess for yourself.  You've got both the image catalog and
the
volume database to deal with.  You can't do one without the other.

Along with the fun stuff that Curtis documented below, you'll run into
files
that are over 2GB that unix2dos won't handle, and internal references to
the
master server name.  It's non-trivial and you'll watch NBU break in
weird
and wonderful ways when you try.  

When we did a *media server* rename with a Level 3 person on site (and
this
was on 6.0MP4), it still took us several hours and a call to engineering
before we gave up and left it the old name.

        .../Ed
--
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-
> bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:47 PM
> To: Akker Henk van den; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
> 2003
> 
> Back to the original question. I think the databases (Sybase/emm, etc)
> would restore just fine, but the text files would have a problem.  So
> what if you just fixed the text files?
> 
> Although it's unsupported, I'm thinking that it's like the scenario
> below.  (Test and try at your own risk.  I'm typing from memory/ideas,
> not testing.)
> 
> 1. Load NBU software on the new master
> 2. Load Unix utilities on the Windows server (you're going to want
them
> anyway)
> 3. Recover the database (don't start the daemons yet)
> 4. Run a script like the following
> 
> cd <openv>
> find . -print |xargs file |grep text |awk -F: '{print $1}'|while read
i
> do
>       unix2dos $i >$$.$i
>       mv $$.$i $i
> done
> 
> Again, try at your own risk.
> 
> ---
> W. Curtis Preston
> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies


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