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Re: [Veritas-bu] migrating Legato images from tape to NetBackup

2007-07-09 13:53:16
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] migrating Legato images from tape to NetBackup
From: "Boris Kraizman" <sysadminzone AT gmail DOT com>
To: "Jeff Lightner" <jlightner AT water DOT com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:37:40 -0400
Hi Jeff,

I work for Pharma, and we have 20 years records save policy. You need to document all your operations, we do have a lot request for restores from our ligal department and we have a good writen document how to do restores via ARcServe step by step, same in NetBackup. If you have resources to convert all your old tapes into the new format, then go for it. But in my case where I have over 1000 tapes LTO and DLT writen with ufsdump and ArcServe, nobody gave me such budget. Also, ligal or not, again if it is qualified envoronment as mine, then you would have to do the same with anything, even do retrospective qualification, I don't even talk about SOX or any other compliances. I was saying about "best" with "less" from the technology and business point.

Thank you,
Boris

On 7/9/07, Jeff Lightner <jlightner AT water DOT com> wrote:

I guess I would challenge the "best practice".  "Easiest" isn't always "best".   One might argue that it is "best" to have all backups on a single solution as newer or inheriting administrators 3-4 years down the road may have no clue how to restore the old backups later if all they know is NBU.   Not saying you don't have a valid point of view but I haven't seen this documented as "best practice" by any vendor for the very reason that there are many ways to do things.  On the flip side is the "legal" aspect.   One might be challenged in court if they provided a NetBackup "restore" of files that were backed up before NetBackup was implemented in one's environment.   I can think of nearly as many arguments for doing the conversion as for not doing it so would challenge any "best practice" statement.

 

Restated:  You pays your nickel and you takes your choice.

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Boris Kraizman
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:01 AM
To: Jenner, Steven
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu


Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] migrating Legato images from tape to NetBackup

 

Hi,

It is the best practice to consolidate all backups to one backup solution and keep the older separate as a small environment for restores from old tapes. That is what I did when I needed to migrate from ArcServe and consolidate all existing backups to NetBackup. I have a small tape liner for restores with ArcServe and all SAN based tape libraries now with NetBackup. I think, this approach is much less expensive and time consuming.

Regards,
Boris

On 7/6/07, Jenner, Steven <Steven.Jenner AT uk.telstra DOT com> wrote:


Hi Guys,

Thanks for all of the responses, they pretty much confirm what I
thought.

I think we may just leave a scaled down Legato system in place which can
be shut down when the last tape expires in seven years.

Regards,

Steve.

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lamont2k5
Sent: 06 July 2007 05:50
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] migrating Legato images from tape to NetBackup

I think this also applies to other backup software (other than BEWS).
Had
one client asking for the same thing, migrate their EDM (an old emc
backup) tapes to NetBackup. But if would be the case - restore then
backup
again to NBU - it would really eat up a lot of resources.
They decided not to take that path, instead they opted to maintain their

old system to cater for the restore requests. :)

-lamont

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:38:09 +0800, Sponsler, Michael
< Michael.Sponsler AT ngc DOT com> wrote:

> I worked with Symantec some time ago with this very issue.
> And the short answer is no, there is no other way other than manually
> restoring the data than backing up up with netbackup.
> --
> Mike Sponsler
> Michael.Sponsler AT ngc DOT com
> Northrop Grumman Information Technology
>
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> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu ] On Behalf Of
Jenner,
> Steven
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 3:54 AM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] migrating Legato images from tape to NetBackup
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I am looking at consolidating two disparate backup systems one running
> Legato the other NetBackup.
>
>
> As I come from the NetBackup School I would like to ensure the new
> system runs on NetBackup; however I have an issue with archived data
> held on tape that was backed up using Legato. The other team have a
> retention policy of seven years therefore existing backup images
created
> with the Legato system are not due to expire any time soon and could
be
> called upon for a restore at any time.
>
>
> Is there a way to migrate the data held on the Legato media to the
> NetBackup system, other than manually restoring the data to a server
> from the Legato tapes then backing up with NetBackup?
>
>
> We are talking about several hundred tapes therefore the manual
process
> detailed above would be extremely time consuming.
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Steve.
>
>
>
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