I agree (with Curtis), if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If the current
version is doing what you need and is running fine then don't change unless
you have to (eg stay on supported version).
A lot of people moved to version 6.0 for hot catalogue backups, new client
support and SSO being properly built in.
I did the upgrade at a previous place because of BMR and then didn't end up
using it. I was quite upset since we went to it when only MP1 was around and
had various scheduling issues. We loved version 5.1 MP4
6.0MP4 does seem OK but I still see some scheduling issues although I also
need to do another nbcc so that could be it too.
There's some wise words from Dave at cox.net . I have seen the same here in
Aus, many people have done the upgrade too quickly. I even know of some
Symantec guys that did it without running nbcc. That has changed, I think
everyone knows that it should be used. I am even considering doing it every
few months just to be extra safe.
So, in summary, work out if you really need to upgrade and if you do, be
prepared. But don't be too over cautious, make sure you are always on a
supported version and be ready to move when support is ending..
All the best with backups/restores,
Dom
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From: Curtis Preston [mailto:cpreston at glasshouse.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2007 8:43 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington;
veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0
MP4
Stability is more important than functionality. I'm familiar with the 6.5
feature set, and I'm excited about it's release, but I'm not so excited
about it that I'd recommend upgrading to it just after it comes out,
especially for companies where upgrading the downgrading is a major ordeal,
such as those who have to deal with validated systems. I'd take 6.0 MP4
over 6.5 or 6.5 MP1 any day. I'd let those who really need those wizbang
6.5 features upgrade to it and test it out for me for a while before I jump
on it. ;) This has nothing to do with Symantec. It's my standard policy
for any major infrastructure package. So if you adopt that mentality, I'd
say I'll be waiting until AT LEAST Q1 2008 before upgrading to recommending
an upgrade to 6.5.
I also concur with the comments that the upgrade from 5.1 to 6.0 was major
(from an infrastructure standpoint) and the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5 is
relatively minor in comparison.
---
W. Curtis Preston
Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS
VP Data Protection
GlassHouse Technologies
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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:51 AM
To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to6.0
MP4
A few reasons:
A long time ago it became clear that waiting for the next thing was a good
way of never moving forward because something is always in the pipeline.
The next thing is often called "vaporware" because all the bells and
whistles they tell you it is going to have vaporize (disappear) in the
actual release.
Vendors don't always meet expected (or even announced) release dates for new
software.
You might actually have cycles now to do it that you won't have in the
future.
You may be wishing to implement new hardware in your environment (e.g. we're
getting Data Domain) and want to understand any differences the new
software does to your existing hardware so you'll understand later what was
introduced by the new software and what was introduced by the new hardware.
Given the major shift between 5.1 and 6.0 in the way NBU does things
upgrading to 6.5 later will likely not be as major a change (somewhat like
going from 4.5 to 5.1 wasn't that big a deal).
Anyway we're just preparing to take the plunge ourselves so I can't say how
easy it is. My opinions are formed mainly by reading this forum and by
what our (not Symantec) vendor says about it.
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From: Liddle, Stuart [mailto:liddles at amgen.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:19 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington;
veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0
MP4
We have an environment that is under strict change control and if we are
going to upgrade we are going to wait just a bit longer for the version that
has more features in it. Why go for 6.0 now, when you might want to do the
upgrade to 6.5 in just a few months?
--stuart
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From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner at water.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:12 AM
To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0
MP4
Why? I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable.
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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Liddle,
Stuart
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM
To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0
MP4
yeah....wait for 6.5, that's what we are doing
--stuart
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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mike
Wigington
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM
To: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4
Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4?
TIA,
Mike Wig
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