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[Veritas-bu] NBU Licensing Question - Phys. Drives vs. VirtualDrives

2006-08-24 13:44:22
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU Licensing Question - Phys. Drives vs. VirtualDrives
From: JMARTI05 at intersil.com (Martin, Jonathan (Contractor))
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:44:22 -0400
>From my latest VTL Quote its called 

Netbackup 6.0 Virtual Tape Option - 1TB Usable Capacity
SKU: 16006C-000000
Pricing: $793, $162 1 YR Support

If I'm not mistaken you have to purchase SSO Media Server licenses for
everything else that wants to write to the VTL.

-Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of "Koster,
Phil"
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:30 PM
To: veritas-bu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Licensing Question - Phys. Drives vs.
VirtualDrives

That makes sense.  

So you just license the TB of storage the device has (the one providing
the VTL; in your case the PathlightVX)? 

The proposal we got for this was a Sun/StorageTEK solution that involved
a VTA-1000 from Peak Data with 5TB of "cache" and an IBM SL500 with 4
LTO-3's on the backend.  I'm not terribly impressed by their proposal
overall but if we want to purchase a different solution we have to be
able to shoot them down in front of the City Commission (I hate working
for local government) because they are the cheapest by like $150K.  One
of senior managers is looking heavily to me for the license answers
(aside of the usual technical recommendation) but I don't have direct
access to our approved vendors.

Do you by chance know what they call that license?  I tried looking on
Symantec's web site and they do not actually list any NBU licensing
requirements with any useful detail.  Just the "Agents and Options".

Thanks.  Huge help (unlike Symantec's web site).

Phil
456-3136

-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Small [mailto:Robin.Small at fresno.gov]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:09 PM
To: veritas-bu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Licensing Question - Phys. Drives vs.
Virtual Drives

We're using something like that, an ADIC PathlightVX. It's in front of a
library with only 2 LTO-3 drives (soon to be 4).

We have 14 virtual drives configured on the PVX (12 of which are going
out to 6 san media servers -- two each --, so they back themselves up
across FC). 

It's licensed by the TB, through a VTL license, instead of by virtual
tape drive.

I think we're only paying for the VTL licenses (8TB) -- for that portion
of our backup config, the two physical drives on the back end aren't
covered, since they don't ever touch a media/master, only our PVX.

Hope that made sense..

~ Robin
 
>>> "Koster, Phil" <pkoster at ci.grand-rapids.mi.us> 08/24/06 8:41 AM >>>
We got bids in for new back up solutions and one of them proposes 16
virtual tape drives but only 4 physical LTO- 3 drives.  Does anyone know
off the top of their head how that would work?  (Would we need 16 tape
drive licenses to go along with all the clients etc?).  

 

There would not be any addition of media servers or clients.  The
proposal is basically a proprietary SAN set up that has up to 32 VTD
emulation channels to interface with NBU, NBU would not be able to use
it as a DSSU, and NBU will not have direct access to the LTO- 3's, only
the VTDs.

 

Thanks.

 

Phil Koster

Network Administrator

City of Grand Rapids

Direct: 616- 456- 3136

Helpdesk: 456- 3999

 





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