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[Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)

2006-08-02 09:40:53
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)
From: simon.weaver at astrium.eads.net (WEAVER, Simon)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:40:53 +0100
Jonathan
I am assuming its only for files in use - because lets assume you have an
8GB Partition and 6GB is filled with apps / OS.
 
If NetBackup needs MORE than 2GB, that is going to be a problem.

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email:  <mailto:Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net> Simon.Weaver at 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [mailto:JMARTI05 at intersil.com] 
Sent: 02 August 2006 14:03
To: WEAVER, Simon; Shyam Hazari; Spearman, David
Cc: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)


The open file writes don't occur until after reboot.  So essentially you've
got multiple copies of many window files just sitting around in temporary
locations waiting for the next reboot to replace the original file.  IMO if
you are THAT strapped for space on your C: you've got a worse problem then
needing a restore. =P
 
-Jonathan

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Simon
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I heard about this - does anyone know why the restore needs MORE disk space
to recover the OS ?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email:  <mailto:Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net> Simon.Weaver at 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Shyam Hazari [mailto:shazari at gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 August 2006 13:09
To: Spearman, David
Cc: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)


Check this tech note.
 
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251163.htm
<http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/251163.htm> 
 
I had to recover a production server after crash few weeks back. What I did
was to restore system_state and C: drive at one go. Make sure you have
enough space in the C: drive. Otherwise it will not restore all the required
files and will cause the system reboot continuously. I have seen this happen
before. 
 
-Shyam
 
On 8/2/06, Spearman, David <spe08 at co.henrico.va.us
<mailto:spe08 at co.henrico.va.us> > wrote: 

Sorry one and All, made a mistake, it was 5.1mp3 that had the problem. My
support call is below 
 
 
I tried restoring a w2k3 server as a test and got an lssas error on 

reboot, with the machine constantly rebooting. After going to your support 

page I ran in to the following document



Document ID: 274353 

 <http://support.veritas.com/docs/274353>
http://support.veritas.com/docs/274353 



It essentially says contact veritas. So what now?

RESPONSE


David,
 
As we had discussed, this is a known issue, so there wasn't any
configuration mistakes on your end. There is a technote with troubleshooting
steps to try and remedy the issue.  This isn't a 100% guaranteed fix, as we
had discussed regarding the use of the Win2Koption. 
 
 <http://support.veritas.com/docs/262411>
http://support.veritas.com/docs/262411
 
To reiterate what's occurring:
 
What is happening is that Windows 2003 Shadow Copy Components have changed
so that there is a slip in recovering some registry hives. (see the
Microsoft link at the bottom of the technote)  For us to keep up with these
changes, we need to modify our software with new patch releases.  The new
release for this issue is due out soon, but no concrete date that I can
release.  In the meantime, I will create an escalations task and will inform
you on what I can get from backline, and what they may request from you for
additional information.  
 
At any rate it was definately fixed with mp4, for your sake Simon I would
test your MP2 or upgrade your master/media servers to mp4. 
 
dds 
 
 
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David
What is the bug, as we use MP2 NBU 5.1
 
can you provide details on this?
 
Thanks

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU 

Email:  <mailto:Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net> Simon.Weaver at 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Spearman, David [mailto:  <mailto:spe08 at co.henrico.va.us>
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Sent: 02 August 2006 11:33
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring entire servers (Windows)


Tim,
 
Windows is the easiest restore in the entire venue. From scratch, load the
OS (patched to whatever level your version of NBU requires) and leave it in
the workgroup mode with a workgroup having the same name as the domain it
was in. Load the nbu agent, partition the drive, then do a FULL resore,
reboot, done. I have actually done this across disimiliar platforms, albeit
you have to be a bit tricky. In short we will never waste money on windows
bmr, it's just to easy to do it the old fashioned way. The only caveats are 
1. Domain Comtrollers require a reboot into domain controller restore mode
2. NB5.1 mp2 had a major bug with w2k3. Just make sure you are higher (or
lower) than that. 

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I'm just reviewing disaster recovery at the moment and have found a
paragraph or 2 recommending that all system files and application files are
backed up. We generally run A_L_D in our policies 'just in case' but I've
been thinking about restoring system and application files and wonder how
most people approach this sort of thing. 
We don't use BMR so I figure the best way to restore an entire server is to
rebuild the OS, install any applications then restore actual 'data'; I've
always considered if you try to restore 'everything' it could get a bit
messy and confused if some of it doesn't get restored exactly as it was
before. 
Without using BMR, can you restore the contents of an entire server in
Windows (I'm talking the whole show including system files, system_state
data, applications and everything)? 
 
Cheers,

 

        
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