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[Veritas-bu] status 1 (was: Typical success rates?)

2006-06-30 08:41:01
Subject: [Veritas-bu] status 1 (was: Typical success rates?)
From: Frerk.Schindelasch at ewe.de (Schindelasch, Frerk)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:41:01 +0200
The Report does its job. But there were about 400 jobs with returncode 1 in the 
past 5 days, anything that could be automated would help.  

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Not sure about command line, but doesn't the problem reports go into details?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator


EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net



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Is it possible, to get a list of the files not backed up in a job exiting with 
RC 1 from the command line? 


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Simon
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Jeff
Agree, as mentioned below in a Status 1 backup
1) exclude the file/files that are causing the status code
2) Investigate issue and if not relevant, revert to point 1.



Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator


EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net



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Sent: 30 June 2006 12:49
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] status 1 (was: Typical success rates?)


Status 1 is not a failure UNLESS it's a database backup.  For filesystems 
everywhere I've been we've shown that a status 1 is not a failure but a 
warning.  Unfortunately you won't get Veritas to officially confirm that.

Some things I've seen cause a status 1:

Open files.
Files changed between the time the list for backup and the actual write to tape 
occurred. Sun "Door" files.

We verified extensively at a job that required FDA Validation that restores 
from such backups were indeed complete to the point in time the backup was 
started.  At that job we simply had to document that a status 1 was a success 
for all but database backups.

Note that due to the status 1 scheduling tools Tivoli Work Scheduler
(Maestro) that show abends for non zero exit status need to be massaged. You 
basically have to have the Maestro job script check for status 1 and mark exit 
the script with status 0 to prevent this.  "exit 0" is all you have to do in a 
script to make this work.  It took me a while to get our schedulers to 
understand this concept but once they did and I gave them the syntax they were 
able to avoid reported abends for this.


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Bob
As the image is stored in the DB, I still see Status 1 as a good backup.

As long as you can get the data that needs to be backed up, and you identify 
the reason for the "1" you have 2 options in my view:

1) exclude the file/files that are causing the status code
2) Investigate and if not relevant, revert to point 1.

Anything higher is what I class a failure.
Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator


EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net



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Sent: 30 June 2006 08:13
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] status 1 (was: Typical success rates?)


> Exclude the "1"'s as I dont class them as failures :-)

Which might be why NetBackup defines stat 1 as "partial success" _and keeps the 
image_.  Final status <= 1 yields a restorable image; status > 1 does not 
(archives excluded).  I think we agree that stat 1 beats the heck out of stat > 
1.

That said, Operations can not accept a stat 1 without investigation. What is a 
status 1--is it one of the 15-odd conditions in the Status 1 section of the 
NetBackup Troubleshooting Guide?  Is it "just another goofy Windows busy 
perfdat file?"  The definition Ops must apply is "of all the files which were 
to be backed up, some were and some were not."


Example A:
Files to be backed up (seletion minus excludes plus includes:  1,000,000 Files 
backed up:  999,999 Files not backed up:  1
Status:  1

Example B:
Files to be backed up (seletion minus excludes plus includes:  1,000,000 Files 
backed up:  1 Files not backed up:  999,999
Status:  1

Hence the BBP requirement that intelligence, artificial or human, be applied to 
stat 1s every time.


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