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SV: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

2006-05-18 14:38:11
Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..
From: hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se (Hampus Lind)
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:38:11 +0200
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:-)

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Do you have any thoughts on how you would use tapes in a diligent or
falconstor environment? Or are you looking at only use disk as a backup
media?

For safety reasons one could mirror the disk and replicate the servers =
to
different sites, but yet I don=92t know if its enough.

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Basically with these products you only have one generation of a =
fullbackup
(if you don=92t make some more of curse, but then you need more disk
capacity), which means if you lose that disk all backups are gone. Do =
you
see any risks with this? Of course if you mirror the disk to one or more
sites you are much safer.

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I think the tape vendors have brainwashed me!! :-)

=20

=20

Hampus Lind
Rikspolisstyrelsen
National Police Board
Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
E-mail: hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fr=E5n: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] F=F6r Paul Keating
Skickat: den 18 maj 2006 20:07
Till: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
=C4mne: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

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LOL...not far...based on features, those are the two we are going to =
start
looking at soon.

=20

Paul

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hampus Lind [mailto:hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se]=20
Sent: May 18, 2006 2:05 PM
To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..

Ok..

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How fare have you come in you evaluation with diligent and falconstor? =
Have
you found any big difference between the two?

We have looked at diligent for some time now, the down side right now is
that there is only one test installation here in Sweden which results =
little
knowledge and no local support/service organisation.

Falconstor I think have a couple of installation and some more OEM
installations. But I haven=92t looked that much at them yet.


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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Do you have any =
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are you
looking at only use disk as a backup media?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For safety =
reasons one
could mirror the disk and replicate the servers to different sites, but =
yet I don&#8217;t
know if its enough.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Basically with =
these
products you only have one generation of a fullbackup (if you =
don&#8217;t make
some more of curse, but then you need more disk capacity), which means =
if you
lose that disk all backups are gone. Do you see any risks with this? Of =
course
if you mirror the disk to one or more sites you are much =
safer.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></fo=
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lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think the tape =
vendors
have brainwashed me!! </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DWingdings><span
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></fon=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hampus Lind<br>
Rikspolisstyrelsen<br>
National Police Board<br>
Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43<br>
Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66<br>
E-mail: <a =
href=3D"mailto:hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se">hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT 
se</a></=
span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Ursprungligt =
meddelande-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Fr&aring;n:</span></b>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>F&ouml;r </span></b>Paul Keating<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Skickat:</span></b> den 18 maj 2006 =
20:07<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Till:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>&Auml;mne:</span></b> RE: =
[Veritas-bu]
Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..</span></font></p>

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color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>LOL...not
far...based on features, those are the two we are going to start looking =
at
soon.</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Hampus Lind
[mailto:hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> May 18, 2006 2:05 =
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Paul Keating;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> SV: [Veritas-bu]
Netbackup PureDisk vs datadomain / Diligent..</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:65.2pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ok..</span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:65.2pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:65.2pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>How fare have you come in you evaluation with diligent and
falconstor? Have you found any big difference between the =
two?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:65.2pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>We have looked at diligent for some time now, the down side =
right
now is that there is only one test installation here in Sweden which =
results
little knowledge and no local support/service =
organisation.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:65.2pt'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Falconstor I think have a couple of installation and some =
more OEM
installations. But I haven&#8217;t looked that much at them =
yet.</span></font></p>

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