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[Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question

2006-05-16 11:10:15
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question
From: JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com (Martin, Jonathan (Contractor))
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:10:15 -0400
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Yes the windows Backup, Archive and Restore GUI works well for this.
You can use both "standard" and "calendar" mode to do restores and
select individual jobs or "everything since <date>."  The GUI
automatically restores the most recent version of all files - you don't
have to run separate jobs for the full, then each incremental.
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-Jonathan

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:46 AM
To: Bob Stump
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question


>From the UNIX jnbSA yes, but from Windows if you don't use the java
client I am not sure you can do this.


On 5/16/06, Bob Stump < stumpb AT michigan DOT gov <mailto:stumpb AT michigan 
DOT gov>
> wrote:=20

        You only have to issue 1 restore. NetBackup does all the work.=20
        Simply give it the timeframe and it will restore the
latest/greatest file from that timeframe.=20
        Hopefully you will select the last full as the start point and
the current time as the end point.
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        >>> "Justin Piszcz" <jpiszcz.backup AT gmail DOT com> 5/16/2006 10:19
AM >>>=20
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        Also Justin, in a restore process, it should be the last Full
plus last Incr to recover. (Cumulative)

        Many people don't do cumulative, but differential, and when you
do differential you need to restore, in order, each differential going
in order 17th 18th 19th etc..
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        On 5/16/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net >
wrote:=20

                Hmmm... well what I do is this......
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                Weekly Full Backups around 1 month
                Incr Backups 3 weeks
                Month End backups set for 12 month retention!
                =20
                With the settings you have, my guess is your Catalog
Backups are going to grow quite fast :-)
                =20
                Also Justin, in a restore process, it should be the last
Full plus last Incr to recover. (Cumulative)
                =20
                =20

                Regards

                Simon Weaver
                3rd Line Technical Support=20
                Windows Domain Administrator=20

                EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
                Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU=20

                Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net
<mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net>=20

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                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: DLew97 [mailto: dlew97 AT gmail DOT com
<mailto:dlew97 AT gmail DOT com> ]=20
                        Sent: 16 May 2006 14:14
                        To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
                        Subject: [Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question
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                        Our corporate retention policy for data is
60days guaranteed.
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                        How should I setup my retention periods?
                        =20
                        Currently we run a FULL every 4 weeks and a
Differential Incremental every day.
                        =20
                        I have 60 days set for the incremental and 90
days set for the full.  I am not sure if this setting is correct.  I
need to guarantee 60 days of data at all times.  I am afraid that the
earlier FULL is needed to do a restoration if the the file has not been
picked up by the incrementals.=20
                        =20
                        Any suggestions?
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Yes the windows Backup, Archive and Restore GUI =
works well=20
for this.&nbsp; You can use both "standard" and "calendar" mode to do =
restores=20
and select individual jobs or "everything since &lt;date&gt;."&nbsp; The =
GUI=20
automatically restores the most recent version of all files - you don't =
have to=20
run separate jobs for the full, then each =
incremental.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D680280815-16052006><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D680280815-16052006><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>-Jonathan</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Justin=20
Piszcz<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Bob=20
Stump<BR><B>Cc:</B> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
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Re:=20
[Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>From the UNIX jnbSA yes, but from Windows if you don't use =
the java=20
client I am not sure you can do this.<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 5/16/06, <B =
class=3Dgmail_sendername>Bob Stump</B>=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:stumpb AT michigan DOT gov"> stumpb AT michigan DOT 
gov</A>&gt;=20
wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
  <DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"MARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma; font-size-adjust: =
none; font-stretch: normal">
  <DIV>You only have to issue 1 restore. NetBackup does all the work. =
</DIV>
  <DIV>Simply give it the timeframe and it will restore the =
latest/greatest file=20
  from that timeframe. </DIV>
  <DIV>Hopefully you will select the last full as the start point and =
the=20
  current time as the end point.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Justin Piszcz" &lt;<A=20
  onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"=20
  href=3D"mailto:jpiszcz.backup AT gmail DOT com"=20
  target=3D_blank>jpiszcz.backup AT gmail DOT com</A>&gt; 5/16/2006 10:19 AM =
&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
  <BR></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3De id=3Dq_10b3da6481c5186e_1>
  <DIV style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
  <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Also Justin, =
in a=20
  restore process, it should be the last Full plus last Incr to recover. =

  (Cumulative)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>Many people don't do cumulative, but differential, and when =
you do=20
  differential you need to restore, in order, each differential going in =
order=20
  17th 18th 19th etc..<BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 5/16/06, <B =
class=3Dgmail_sendername>WEAVER,=20
  Simon</B> &lt;<A onclick=3D"return =
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"=20
  href=3D"mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net"=20
  target=3D_blank>simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net </A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN>=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Hmmm... =
well what I do=20
    is this......</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Weekly =
Full Backups=20
    around 1 month</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Incr =
Backups 3=20
    weeks</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Month End =
backups set=20
    for 12 month retention!</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>With the =
settings you=20
    have, my guess is your Catalog Backups are going to grow quite fast=20
    :-)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Also =
Justin, in a=20
    restore process, it should be the last Full plus last Incr to =
recover.=20
    (Cumulative)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
    face=3DArial><FONT=20
    color=3D#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
    <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
    face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Simon=20
    Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000a0=20
    size=3D2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support <BR>Windows Domain=20
    Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=3DArial> =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
    <P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><I><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>EADS Astrium=20
    Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-gb><BR><FONT=20
    face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>Anchorage Road, =
Portsmouth, PO3 5PU=20
    </EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
    <P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><EM>Email:=20
    </EM></FONT><A onclick=3D"return =
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"=20
    href=3D"mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net" target=3D_blank><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
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      Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> DLew97 [mailto:<A=20
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      href=3D"mailto:dlew97 AT gmail DOT com" target=3D_blank> =
dlew97 AT gmail DOT com</A>]=20
      <BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 May 2006 14:14<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
      onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"=20
      href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"=20
      target=3D_blank>veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu =
</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
      [Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>Our corporate retention policy for data is 60days =
guaranteed.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>How should I setup my retention periods?</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Currently we run a FULL every 4 weeks and a Differential =
Incremental=20
      every day.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>I have 60 days set for the incremental and 90 days set for =
the=20
      full.&nbsp; I am not sure if this setting is correct.&nbsp; I need =
to=20
      guarantee 60 days of data at all times.&nbsp; I am afraid that the =
earlier=20
      FULL is needed to do a restoration if the the file has not been =
picked up=20
      by the incrementals. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Any suggestions?<BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>DLew97=20
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