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[Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 12:57:19
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support
From: GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com (Greenberg, Katherine A)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 12:57:19 -0400
Oh wait, Scott? Who do you work for? :-P

We are also going to be deploying NetBackup w/ SLES. Had a hiccup with
the NBU 5 release we were running and wanting to use 64-bit
architecture. Working back towards this as an option.

RedHat got greedy and has a crappy licensing model and I think a lot of
people are moving away from them as *the choice* for Enterprise Linux
deployment (just what I've heard in mumbles and gripes).  And if you
look at the fact that SLES is supported on everything from 32-bit to
64-bit to Z-series mainframes (as a client, at least), I think they're
being smart and spotting the direction of the industry away from RedHat.

My gripe with Symantec as a WHOLE is a complete lack of
interest/support/caring/notice for the fact that there are freaks out
here deploying SLES on IBM Power platform. Symantec won't even consider
this a *direction* of the industry, however, aside from Microsoft
(**chuckle**) they are the ONLY Tier 1/Top 10 software manufacturer who
isn't at least looking at this as viable... let alone that IBM and
Oracle have most of their product stack ported to this platform...


:-D

Enjoy your day!
Kate


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[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Scott
Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:44 PM
To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support


Ed,
 
What about the other "white meat".  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
running as both Master and Media Servers.
 
;-)
 
-sj

>>> Ed Wilts <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org> 5/10/2006 10:17 AM >>>
I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5. Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended
and full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.

Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

        .../Ed

--
Ed Wilts, RHCE
Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org 
Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
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