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[Veritas-bu] NB 6 and VSP on Windows

2006-05-10 03:38:13
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NB 6 and VSP on Windows
From: simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net (WEAVER, Simon)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 08:38:13 +0100
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Well that wont help young Tim :-(
And a bit bad that NBU wont do it.... even with open transaction agent
enabled!
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email:  <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net> Simon.Weaver AT 
Astrium-eads DOT net

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Cashman [mailto:nbu.admin AT gmail DOT com] 
Sent: 09 May 2006 21:14
To: Dean
Cc: WEAVER, Simon; Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6 and VSP on Windows


In my exp neither VSP or VSS will allow you to backup open .pst files

 
Steve


On 5/9/06, Dean <dean.deano AT gmail DOT com <mailto:dean.deano AT gmail DOT 
com> > wrote:


VSS is using the Windows VSS service, which in turn can access other
technology such as Veritas Volume Manager, or snapshot/mirror capabilities
of your disk hardware, which would be the way to go if you're licensed for
those goodies. 

I am about to implement FlashBackup to backup some huge Windows file servers
using the NBU 6 advanced client. Currently the backups of those file servers
are very slow (the old traversing the filesystem issue). We will use
Flashbackup to do block level backups. Flashbackup uses Windows VSS to
ensure a consistent disk image during the backup, which in turn will utilise
either VxVM or storage array snapshot capabilities to achieve this. 

VSP is, by comparison, fairly dumb :P

Although I'm talking purely from theory - haven't tested it yet.

I can't talk about .pst files. You should probably investigate using the NBU
agent for Exchange. 







        Tim Wilkinson 
I.T. Support Officer 
Science Corporate Information Systems 
Defence Science & Technology Organisation 
Department of Defence 

        Tel: (02) 96921484 
Fax: (02) 96921562 
Email: tim.wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au
<mailto:tim.wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au>  



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<DIV><SPAN class=340353707-10052006><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Well that wont help young Tim 
:-(</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=340353707-10052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff>And a bit bad that NBU wont do it.... even with open transaction 
agent enabled!</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT 
face=Arial><FONT 
color=#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT 
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Simon 
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000a0 size=2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support<BR>Windows 
Domain Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><I><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-gb><BR><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Email: 
</EM></FONT><A href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Steve Cashman 
  [mailto:nbu.admin AT gmail DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 09 May 2006 
21:14<BR><B>To:</B> 
  Dean<BR><B>Cc:</B> WEAVER, Simon; Wilkinson, Tim; 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Veritas-bu] 
NB 6 and 
  VSP on Windows<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr">
  <DIV>In my exp neither VSP or VSS will allow you to backup open .pst 
  files</DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Steve</DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 5/9/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Dean</B> 
  &lt;<A href="mailto:dean.deano AT gmail DOT com">dean.deano AT gmail DOT 
com</A>&gt; 
  wrote:</SPAN> 
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    <DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr">VSS is using the Windows VSS service, which in 
    turn can access other technology such as Veritas Volume Manager, or 
    snapshot/mirror capabilities of your disk hardware, which would be the way 
    to go if you're licensed for those goodies. <BR><BR>I am about to implement 
    FlashBackup to backup some huge Windows file servers using the NBU 6 
    advanced client. Currently the backups of those file servers are very slow 
    (the old traversing the filesystem issue). We will use Flashbackup to do 
    block level backups. Flashbackup uses Windows VSS to ensure a consistent 
    disk image during the backup, which in turn will utilise either VxVM or 
    storage array snapshot capabilities to achieve this. <BR><BR>VSP is, by 
    comparison, fairly dumb :P<BR><BR>Although I'm talking purely from theory - 
    haven't tested it yet.<BR><BR>I can't talk about .pst files. You should 
    probably investigate using the NBU agent for Exchange. </DIV>
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    id=q_10b1952998eb0c44_1><BR><BR><BR>
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          <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tim Wilkinson</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2>I.T. Support Officer</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Science 
          Corporate Information Systems</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2>Defence Science &amp; Technology Organisation</FONT> <BR><FONT 
          face=Arial size=2>Department of Defence</FONT> </P>
          <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tel: (02) 96921484</FONT> <BR><FONT 
          face=Arial size=2>Fax: (02) 96921562</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2>Email:<U></U></FONT><U></U><U> <FONT face="Times New Roman" 
          color=#0000ff><A 
          onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
          href="mailto:tim.wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au" 
          target=_blank>tim.wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au</A></FONT></U> 
      
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