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We purchased NetBackup recently and we were advised then that in a
VMWare environment we would simply need one client license per OS. So
for each physical machine you would need one to back up the VMWare/Linux
environment (if desired) then one Windows client which would cover one
or more virtual servers.
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Richard
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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon
Sent: Friday, 7 April 2006 7:36 pm
To: 'Roger Wilber'
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
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But if the VM is not running as a local administrator, thats
going to cause a problem?
I wasnt aware there was a license issue with VM machines on a
host!! Made need to clarify this :-)
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Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator=20
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net
<mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net>=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Wilber [mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com]=20
Sent: 06 April 2006 15:51
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
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Easier? Probably. However, that would also require
additional client licenses, where as my method does not.=20
=09
For long lived virtual servers, I can see buying
additional client licenses and setting up an NBU client on each virtual
server but for temporary virtual servers that aren't expected to last
more than a couple of weeks, I just couldn't.=20
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=09
On 4/6/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net>
wrote:=20
Roger
Would it not be easier to apply the NBU Client?
That way, it can run either if anyone is logged on or logged off?
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support=20
Windows Domain Administrator=20
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net
<mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net>=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Wilber
[mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com]=20
Sent: 05 April 2006 15:10
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up
virtual servers
=09
=09
Another possibility exists, especially
for temporary test setups:
=09
While backing up the the Windows VM host
(lets call it vmhost), I just add into the backup selection something
along the lines of "\\vm1\C$" where vm1 is one of the virtual machines.
The Netbackup client on vmhost has to be running as an administrative
user. I create a special account for it and change the password on a
regular schedule. That allows me to backup the (in my case test
environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use.=20
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=09
On 4/5/06, WEAVER, Simon
<simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> wrote:=20
Well think of the virtual server as a
physical one. As long as it can resolve name resolution, is not blocked
by any firewalls, and can communicate with its host netbackup server,
should be ok.
=20
We used to do this on NT4, so my guess
is, not alot has changed :-) Its a standard PC Client software on what
it believes is a physical machine :-)
=20
Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support=20
Windows Domain Administrator=20
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net
<mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net>=20
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng DOT
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[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of
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Simon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 7 April 2006 7:36 pm<BR><B>To:</B> 'Roger=
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[Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>But if the VM is not running as a local=20
administrator, thats going to cause a=20
problem?</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff>I wasnt aware there was a license issue with VM machines =
on a=20
host!! Made need to clarify this :-)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
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Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000a0=
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Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
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Astrium=20
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><BR><FONT fac=
e=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3=20
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>Ema=
il:=20
</EM></FONT><A href=3D"mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"><FONT
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FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Roger=
Wilber=20
[mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 April 2006=20
15:51<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Veritas-bu]=
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Backing up virtual servers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Easier? Probably.&=
nbsp;=20
However, that would also require additional client licenses, where as m=
y=20
method does not. <BR><BR>For long lived virtual servers, I can see buyi=
ng=20
additional client licenses and setting up an NBU client on each virtual=
=20
server but for temporary virtual servers that aren't expected to last m=
ore=20
than a couple of weeks, I just couldn't. <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 4/6/06, <B class=3Dgmail_sendername>W=
EAVER,=20
Simon</B> <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net">simon.weaver AT
astrium DOT eads=
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Roger</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Would it no=
t be=20
easier to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can run either if anyone=
is=20
logged on or logged off?</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT si=
ze=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT si=
ze=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Simon=20
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000=
0a0=20
size=3D2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support <BR>Windows Domain=20
Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></SPAN><=
/P>
<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><I><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
EADS Astrium=20
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><BR><FONT=
=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth,=
PO3=20
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM=
>Email:=20
</EM></FONT><A onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this=
)"=20
href=3D"mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"
target=3D_blank><FONT f=
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[mailto:<A onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"=
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target=3D_blank>rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 05
Apri=
l 2006=20
15:10<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"=20
href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"=20
target=3D_blank>veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu</A><BR><B>Subject=
:</B>=20
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Ano=
ther=20
possibility exists, especially for temporary test setups:<BR><BR>Wh=
ile=20
backing up the the Windows VM host (lets call it vmhost), I just ad=
d=20
into the backup selection something along the lines of "\\vm1=
\C$"=20
where vm1 is one of the virtual machines. The Netbackup clien=
t on=20
vmhost has to be running as an administrative user. I create =
a=20
special account for it and change the password on a regular=20
schedule. That allows me to backup the (in my case test=20
environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use. <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 4/5/06, <B=20
class=3Dgmail_sendername>WEAVER, Simon</B> <<A=20
onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"=20
href=3D"mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net"=20
target=3D_blank>simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net</A>>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Well th=
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the virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can resolve n=
ame=20
resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can communicate =
with=20
its host netbackup server, should be=20
ok.</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>We used=
to do=20
this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a stand=
ard=20
PC Client software on what it believes is a physical machine=20
:-)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Thanks</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"DIRECTION: ltr"><SPAN>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FON=
T=20
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
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<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FON=
T=20
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Simon=20
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D=
#0000a0=20
size=3D2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support <BR>Windows Domain=20
Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></SP=
AN></P>
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=3D2>EADS=20
Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-gb><BR><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>=
Anchorage=20
Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
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