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[Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites

2006-02-16 08:05:25
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites
From: pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca (Paul Keating)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:05:25 -0500
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We have 5 remote offices, each with 1 unix file server that's backed up,
and 0 IT staff.
We back them up with a nightly incremental, a weekly synthetic, and a
full once a month. (about 24 hours for a full ~20 Gigs)
They get backed up to a small DSSU sitting on a couple concatenated
local drives, and staged to tape daily.
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Works great.
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I agree, something like the tacit system would be nice.
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Paul

        -----Original Message-----
        From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan (Contractor)
        Sent: February 15, 2006 5:32 PM
        To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites
=09
=09
        Speaking from experience here, if the remote site is a small
office with 1-5 servers and a small library, DO NOT USE NETBACKUP!
        =20
        BackupExec works just fine, and it MUCH easier to manage!!
        =20
        We are considering purchasing devices from Tacit
(http://www.tacitnetworks.com/) which not only replicate data back to
our main datacenter to be backed up, but they also (supposedly)
replicate user data (files) email / exchange DBs and Active Directory
functions.  Worst case scenario, if the local box goes down everyone
grabs the "master" files from the WAN.
        =20
        Admittedly I'm not in the group that is testing this device, but
I've heard nothing but rave reviews so far.
        =20
        -Jonathan

  _____ =20

        From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Cornely,
David
        Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:16 PM
        To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites
=09
=09

        You might want to consider something like Data Domain or a
product like Riverbed.

        I like the idea of Riverbed (a WAN acceleration device), where
you could bring your file servers back to the local site, backing them
up there, and then your remote users would access the file server via
the WAN, with Riverbed devices on each end.  The idea is that this
device makes the file server appear local to the remote users.

        =20

        Any way you cut it remote site backups are a pain and the fewer
autonomous NBU environments you have the better off you will be.

        =20

        -----Original Message-----
        From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of j.
okabayashi
        Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:44
        To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites

        =20

        All,

        I just wanted to get an idea of what everyone is doing to back
up any remote sites they may have. I am running NBU 5.1 MP4 on W2K3
servers. I have a few sites with a single DC that is acting as file
server, and print server. As of right now, these single servers are not
getting backed up. Can NBU be used for this or should we look into
something else? Any insight would be appreciated.=20

        =20

        Thanks,

        Jason


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D430405512-16022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>We=20
have 5 remote offices, each with 1 unix file server that's backed up, =
and 0 IT=20
staff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D430405512-16022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>We=20
back them up with a nightly incremental, a weekly synthetic, and a full =
once a=20
month. (about 24 hours for a full ~20 Gigs)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D430405512-16022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>They=20
get backed up to a small DSSU sitting on a couple concatenated local =
drives, and=20
staged to tape daily.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D430405512-16022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D430405512-16022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Works=20
great.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D430405512-16022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D430405512-16022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>I=20
agree, something like the tacit system would be =
nice.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D430405512-16022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#800000><SPAN=20
class=3D430405512-16022006>Paul</SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D430405512-16022006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Martin,=20
  Jonathan (Contractor)<BR><B>Sent:</B> February 15, 2006 5:32 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
Backing=20
  up Remote Sites<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006>Speaking from experience here, if the =
remote site is=20
  a small office with 1-5 servers and a small library, DO NOT USE=20
  NETBACKUP!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006>BackupExec works just fine, and it MUCH =
easier to=20
  manage!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006>We are considering purchasing devices from =
Tacit (<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.tacitnetworks.com/";>http://www.tacitnetworks.com/</A>)=
&nbsp;which=20
  not only replicate data back to our main datacenter to be backed up, =
but they=20
  also (supposedly) replicate user data (files) email / exchange DBs and =
Active=20
  Directory functions.&nbsp; Worst case scenario, if the local box goes =
down=20
  everyone grabs the "master" files from the WAN.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006>Admittedly I'm not in the group that is =
testing this=20
  device, but I've heard nothing but rave reviews so =
far.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D068482822-15022006>-Jonathan</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
  <HR tabIndex=3D-1>
  <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Cornely,=20
  David<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:16 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
Backing=20
  up Remote Sites<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You might =
want to=20
  consider something like Data Domain or a product like=20
  Riverbed.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I like the =
idea of=20
  Riverbed (a WAN acceleration device), where you could bring your file =
servers=20
  back to the local site, backing them up there, and then your remote =
users=20
  would access the file server via the WAN, with Riverbed devices on =
each end.=20
  &nbsp;The idea is that this device makes the file server appear local =
to the=20
  remote users.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any way you =
cut it=20
  remote site backups are a pain and the fewer autonomous NBU =
environments you=20
  have the better off you will be.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>j. =
okabayashi<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, February 15, =
2006=20
  10:44<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] Backing =
up Remote=20
  Sites</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">All,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I just wanted to get an idea =
of what=20
  everyone is doing to back up any&nbsp;remote sites they may have. I am =
running=20
  NBU 5.1 MP4 on W2K3 servers.&nbsp;I have a few sites with a single DC =
that is=20
  acting as file server, and print server. As of right now, these single =
servers=20
  are not getting backed up. Can NBU be used for this or should we look =
into=20
  something else? Any insight would be appreciated. =
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
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  size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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