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[Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup

2006-02-07 07:51:00
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup
From: pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca (Paul Keating)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:51:00 -0500
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Sounds like you might want something like Powerbroker.
=20
Rather than everyone having "root", each person logs in as themselves, and =
executes a powerbroker script that gives them the access rights they need (=
if that is "root", then so be it.)
Everything gets logged on the powerbroker server, and only one person needs=
 root.
=20
Paul

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Hampus Lind [mailto:hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se]=20
        Sent: February 6, 2006 4:24 PM
        To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup
=09
=09

        We have a lot of root people at all our shops.. :-(

        =20

        Of course I got access to all the data that are controlled under 
netbackup=
, and with that can cause great damage.

        The question was more in terms of "is it logged somewhere"? I`am I 
really =
safe if something happens and people know I got this "feature"? I cant real=
ly proof that I did not use this command?

        What about bpinst, that are a far more powerful utility that allow you 
to =
execute scripts on any client server you which.

        =20

        When it comes to SLA`s our units agree to backups and controlled 
restores,=
 not to the possibility of undocumented programs that pretty much can do an=
ything anytime without any logging on there servers.=20

        =20

        =20

        MVH / Hampus Lind
        Rikspolisstyrelsen
        National Police Board
        Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
        Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
        E-mail: hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se

        -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
        Fr=E5n: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin@m=
ailman.eng.auburn.edu] F=F6r Paul Keating
        Skickat: den 6 februari 2006 20:58
        Till: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        =C4mne: RE: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup

        =20

        it's executable by root.

        =20

        keep unauthorized root out of your box...sleep well at night.

        =20

        yes, it's a security risk...yes, it can save your butt....yes, you can 
sho=
ot yourself in the foot with it...you can even blow your whole leg off.

        =20

        anything you can do with bpgp, you can do with a creative backup and 
resto=
re.

        =20

        Paul

                -----Original Message-----
                From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin@ma=
ilman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hampus Lind
                Sent: February 6, 2006 2:13 PM
                To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
                Subject: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup

                Hi all,

                =20

                What are your comments to the bpgp utility, and others, in 
netbackup? I u=
nderstand that it sometimes are useful for backup admins, my self included.=
 But isen`t it also a great security risk? Does the use of this utility get=
 logged somewhere?=20

                =20

                Thanks and regards,

                MVH / Hampus Lind
                Rikspolisstyrelsen
                National Police Board
                Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
                Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
                E-mail: hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se

                =20

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D279064912-07022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 si=
ze=3D2>Sounds=20
like you might want something like Powerbroker.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D279064912-07022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D279064912-07022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 si=
ze=3D2>Rather=20
than everyone having "root", each person logs in as themselves, and execute=
s a=20
powerbroker script that gives them the access rights they need (if that is=20
"root", then so be it.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D279064912-07022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>Everything gets logged on the powerbroker server, and only one per=
son=20
needs root.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D279064912-07022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D279064912-07022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #800000 2px soli=
d; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FO=
NT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Hampus =
Lind=20
  [mailto:hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se] <BR><B>Sent:</B> February 6, 2006 
4:24=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Keating;=20
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> SV: 
[Veritas-bu]=20
  Unadvertised utility in Netbackup<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We have a lot =
of root=20
  people at all our shops.. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DWingdings color=3Dna=
vy=20
  size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">L</SPAN></=
FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>=
&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Of course I go=
t=20
  access to all the data that are controlled under netbackup, and with that=
 can=20
  cause great damage.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The question w=
as more=20
  in terms of =93is it logged somewhere=94? I`am I really safe if something=
 happens=20
  and people know I got this =93feature=94? I cant really proof that I did =
not use=20
  this command?</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What about bpi=
nst,=20
  that are a far more powerful utility that allow you to execute scripts on=
 any=20
  client server you which.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>=
&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When it comes =
to=20
  SLA`s our units agree to backups and controlled restores, not to the=20
  possibility of undocumented programs that pretty much can do anything any=
time=20
  without any logging on there servers. </SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>=
&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>=
&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=
=3DEN-GB=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">MVH / Hampus=20
  Lind<BR>Rikspolisstyrelsen<BR>National Police Board<BR>Tel dir: +46 (0)8 =
- 401=20
  99 43<BR>Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66<BR>E-m</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D=
Arial=20
  color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ail: <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se">hampus.lind AT rps.police 
DOT se</A></=
SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma si=
ze=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Ursprungligt=20
  meddelande-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Fr=E5n:</SPAN></B=
>=20
  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">F=F6r </SPAN></B>Paul Keating<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Skickat:</SPAN></B> den 6 februari 2006=20
  20:58<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Till:</SPAN></B>=20
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">veritas-bu AT mailman.eng DOT 
aub=
urn.edu</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">=C4mne:</SPAN></B> RE: [Veritas-bu] Unadverti=
sed=20
  utility in Netbackup</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dmaroon=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">it's=20
  executable by root.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dmaroon=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">keep=20
  unauthorized root out of your box...sleep well at=20
  night.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dmaroon=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">yes,=20
  it's a security risk...yes, it can save your butt....yes, you can shoot=20
  yourself in the foot with it...you can even blow your whole leg=20
  off.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dmaroon=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">anything you=
 can do=20
  with bpgp, you can do with a creative backup and=20
  restore.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dmaroon=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Paul</SPAN><=
/FONT></P></DIV>
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    style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm"><=
FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
    Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
    veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
    [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Hampus Lind<BR><B><=
SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> February 6, 2006 2:13=20
    PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] Unadvertis=
ed=20
    utility in Netbackup</SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial s=
ize=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi all,</SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
    size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial s=
ize=3D2><SPAN=20
    lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What are you=
r=20
    comments to the bpgp utility, and others, in netbackup? I understand th=
at it=20
    sometimes are useful for backup admins, my self included. But isen`t it=
 also=20
    a great security risk? Does the use of this utility get logged somewher=
e?=20
    </SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
    size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial s=
ize=3D2><SPAN=20
    lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks and=20
    regards,</SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3DArial c=
olor=3Dnavy=20
    size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">MVH / Hampus=20
    Lind<BR>Rikspolisstyrelsen<BR>National Police Board<BR>Tel dir: +46 (0)=
8 -=20
    401 99 4</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3<BR>Tel mob=
: +46=20
    (0)70 - 217 92 66<BR>E-mail: <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se">hampus.lind AT rps.police 
DOT se</A>=
</SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 65.2pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
    size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BL=
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