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[Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps

2006-02-02 10:58:50
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
From: GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com (Greenberg, Katherine A)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:58:50 -0500
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I think I might've mis-interpreted the original question=2E=2E=2E=2E=0D=0A =
=0D=0AAre you moving this to SAN/SCSI attached disk? Or NAS? =0D=0A =0D=0AI=
 thought you were saying you're backing up a lot of NDMP and that is=0D=0Af=
illing the catalog, ergo, you want to move it to SAN/SCSI disk=2E=0D=0A =0D=
=0AAlso, if you don't want to move the whole application, you can just move=
=0D=0A/usr/openv/netbackup/db to external disk and link it back in=2E I've =
also=0D=0Aset things up that way in the past=2E=0D=0A =0D=0A~Kate=0D=0A=0D=
=0A =0D=0A-----Original Message-----=0D=0AFrom: veritas-bu-admin@mailman=2E=
eng=2Eauburn=2Eedu=0D=0A[mailto:veritas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Ee=
du] On Behalf Of Justin=0D=0APiszcz=0D=0ASent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 =
10:52 AM=0D=0ATo: Peter DrakeUnderkoffler=0D=0ACc: Algo Seeker; veritas-bu@=
mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu=0D=0ASubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv=
 to NFS mount coming from=0D=0ANetApps=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AYou could also comp=
ress the catalog, not a good thing to do, but the=0D=0Aoption is available=
=2E  I see no problem though moving it to a NAS, as=0D=0Along as you shutdo=
wn all of the NB services, etc before you move the=0D=0A/usr/openv/netbacku=
p/=2E=2E/db directory to the NAS=2E =0D=0A =0D=0AJustin=2E=0D=0A=0D=0A =0D=
=0AOn 2/2/06, Peter DrakeUnderkoffler <pcd@xinupro=2Ecom> wrote: =0D=0A=0D=
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=0D=0A  I woul=
d think veritas support would not recommend this or=0D=0Acondone it, but if=
 =0D=0A you have no other choice, make sure you have the underlying=0D=0Ane=
twork infrastructure/arch=0D=0A worked out=2E  So the network connection to=
 the netapp from the=0D=0Amaster server, can=0D=0A      it be on a different 
lin=
k than how the NDMP backups take place=0D=0A(unless the drives are =0D=0A       
o=
n the filer)=2E  Is that link resilient, if solaris ipmp, if=0D=0Alinux bon=
ding, if Windows ???=2E=0D=0A   Bottom line is that you are going to tie your=
 backup, or more=0D=0Aimportantly, restore=0D=0A        to a separate 
infrastructu=
re, not that this is right or wrong,=0D=0Ayou just need to =0D=0A       think 
abo=
ut the ramifications=2E  Is the NetApp clustered?=0D=0AReplicated?=0D=0A        
=
=0D=0A  Also, on nbu server startup, make sure that the mount is there=0D=0A=
before NBU=0D=0A        starts=2E  If you are running out of catalog space, 
then t=
ake note=0D=0Aof how =0D=0A     that catalog backups run and what impact that w=
ill have=2E  Also,=0D=0Athere may=0D=0A need to be some tuning if this is N=
FS for the mount, such as=0D=0Aturning off=0D=0A        acl checks, making it 
run =
over tcp, make sure the mount is hard=0D=0Abut intr, etc=2E=2E=2E =0D=0A        
=
=0D=0A  If this were to work, then it would give you clustering=0D=0Acapabil=
ities as well as=0D=0A  an interesting DR solution=2E=0D=0A     =0D=0A  Peter 
Dra=
keUnderkoffler=0D=0A    Xinupro, LLC=0D=0A      617-834-2352=0D=0A      =0D=0A  
=0D=0A  =
=0D=0A  Algo Seeker wrote:=0D=0A        > I am running out of space on my 
internal =
drives=2E I am also=0D=0Athinking =0D=0A        > about migrating to a new 
server=
=2E Anybody moved from local file=0D=0Asystem to=0D=0A  > shared storage=2E =
Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps),=0D=0Aand as the=0D=0A      > 
number=
 of files are growing so is the Catalog=2E What are the=0D=0Apros and cons?=
 =0D=0A >=0D=0A > Any input?=0D=0A      >=0D=0A > Thanks,=0D=0A >=0D=0A 
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=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Are =0D=0Ayou moving this to SAN/SCSI attached disk? Or=
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000ff size=3D2>I =0D=0Athought you were saying you're backing up a lot of N=
DMP and that is filling the =0D=0Acatalog, ergo, you want to move it to SAN=
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=3D#0000ff =0D=0Asize=3D2>Also, if you don't want to move the whole applica=
tion, you can just move =0D=0A/usr/openv/netbackup/db to external disk and =
link it back in=2E I've also set =0D=0Athings up that way in the past=2E</F=
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Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =0D=0Averitas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=
=2Eauburn=2Eedu =0D=0A[mailto:veritas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu=
] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Justin =0D=0APiszcz<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, Februar=
y 02, 2006 10:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Peter =0D=0ADrakeUnderkoffler<BR><B>Cc:</=
B> Algo Seeker; =0D=0Averitas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu<BR><B>Subject=
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ps<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>=0D=0A<DIV>You could also compress the catalog, not =
a good thing to do, but the option =0D=0Ais available=2E&nbsp; I see no pro=
blem though moving it to a NAS, as long as you =0D=0Ashutdown all of the NB=
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ectory to the NAS=2E </DIV>=0D=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A<DIV>Justin=2E<BR><=
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SAGE-----<BR>Hash: SHA1<BR><BR>I would think veritas support =0D=0A  would =
not recommend this or condone it, but if <BR>you have no other choice, =0D=
=0A  make sure you have the underlying network infrastructure/arch<BR>worke=
d =0D=0A  out=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;So the network connection to the netapp from th=
e master =0D=0A  server, can<BR>it be on a different link than how the NDMP=
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p;&nbsp;Is that link resilient, =0D=0A  if solaris ipmp, if linux bonding, =
if Windows ???=2E<BR>Bottom line is that you =0D=0A  are going to tie your =
backup, or more importantly, restore<BR>to a separate =0D=0A  infrastructur=
e, not that this is right or wrong, you just need to <BR>think =0D=0A  abou=
t the ramifications=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;Is the NetApp =0D=0A  clustered?&nbsp;&nb=
sp;Replicated?<BR><BR>Also, on nbu server startup, make =0D=0A  sure that t=
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=0D=0A  run and what impact that will have=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;Also, there may<BR=
>need to be =0D=0A  some tuning if this is NFS for the mount, such as turni=
ng off<BR>acl checks, =0D=0A  making it run over tcp, make sure the mount i=
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 would give you clustering capabilities =0D=0A  as well as<BR>an interestin=
g DR solution=2E<BR><BR>Peter =0D=0A  DrakeUnderkoffler<BR>Xinupro, LLC<BR>=
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