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[Veritas-bu] EMC SIME with Exchange 2003

2006-01-05 14:09:14
Subject: [Veritas-bu] EMC SIME with Exchange 2003
From: kenneth.lee AT siemens DOT com (Lee, Kenneth (SBS US))
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:09:14 -0500
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Paul,

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You are correct!  I forgot to set the cross mount point for the policy
and that did the trick.

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Thanks for you help and insight!!!!

=20

Ken=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Paul
Keating
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:15 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] EMC SIME with Exchange 2003

=20

Ok....how are you "mounting" the data? is the server SAN attached, or is
it a map via a Data mover (or whatever the generic EMC term for filer is
now) ?

=20

if it's a map/mount of a cifs share, do you have "cross mount points"
selected in the policy?

=20

what netbackup rev, and how are you specifying the backup type
(specifying drives? or "all_local_drives")

I had a similar issue on a non-exchange server......due to a netbackup
bug....would backup the whole directory hierarchy, but no files inside
the directories.

affected 5.0 up to and including MP3, IIRC, and possibly 5.1 up to MP1.

=20

Paul

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Lee, Kenneth (SBS US) [mailto:kenneth.lee AT siemens DOT com]=20
        Sent: January 4, 2006 4:46 PM
        To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] EMC SIME with Exchange 2003

        Yes, I am mounting it to the SIME server.  Yes, I can see the
database files.  Yes, I even tried copying these files to a different
directory.  That is what I don't understand.  I have no exclude list yet
when a backup runs for that directory, only the directories are backed
up, not the files themselves.  I only know this is because when I bring
up the restore screen, I only see directories.  The backup has a
returned code of zero.

        =20

        Ken

        =20

        -----Original Message-----
        From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Paul
Keating
        Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:46 AM
        To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] EMC SIME with Exchange 2003

        =20

        Not with SIME.

        =20

        SIME integrates with Exchange to take a snapshot of the exchange
database to a flatfile that can be backed up to tape, mounted on another
exchange server.

        =20

        basically the same as telling SQL to do a hot backup to a flat
file, then using netbackup to backup the flat file....no need for the
SQL agent.

        =20

        Kenneth, are you mounting the snap on an second exchange server,
starting exchange services and backing it up from there???? if so, then
yeah, you would need to use the exchange agent to backup that server.

        =20

        you should be just mounting the volume as a share on a regular
windows server, and backing it up as D:\, E:\ or whatever.....

        =20

        can you see the database files when you browse for restore,
before performing the actual restore?

        =20

        Paul

                -----Original Message-----
                From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Eliza Yam
                Sent: January 4, 2006 12:16 PM
                To: kenneth.lee AT siemens DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
                Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] EMC SIME with Exchange 2003

                Exchange database backup requires NBU Exchange Agent. =20

                =20

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                From: "Lee, Kenneth (SBS US)" <kenneth.lee AT siemens DOT com>
                To: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
                Subject: [Veritas-bu] EMC SIME with Exchange 2003
                Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:20:13 -0500

                NetBackup 5.1 - Solaris

                =20

                Client:  Exchange 2003 server.

                =20

                I am using EMC SIME to backup Exchange.  On the SIME
server where the copy of the Exchange database is mounted, when I do a
flat file backup of the Exchange database, I receive a return code of
zero.  But when I tried to restore the Exchange files, I only see the
directories and never the actual database files.  What am I missing and
has anyone run into this problem?

                =20

                Thanks,

                Ken

                =20

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You are correct!&nbsp; I forgot to =
set the
cross mount point for the policy and that did the =
trick.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for you help and =
insight!!!!</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ken </span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Keating<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January =
05, 2006
5:15 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
EMC SIME
with Exchange 2003</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Ok....how
are you &quot;mounting&quot; the data? is the server SAN attached, or is =
it a
map via a Data mover (or whatever the generic EMC term for filer is now) =
?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>if
it's a map/mount of a cifs share, do you have &quot;cross mount =
points&quot;
selected in the policy?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>what netbackup
rev, and how are you specifying the backup type (specifying drives? or
&quot;all_local_drives&quot;)</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>I had
a similar issue on a non-exchange server......due to a netbackup =
bug....would
backup the whole directory hierarchy, but no files inside the =
directories.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>affected
5.0 up to and including MP3, IIRC, and possibly 5.1 up to =
MP1.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Paul</span></fo=
nt></p>

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<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid maroon =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Lee, Kenneth (SBS =
US)
[mailto:kenneth.lee AT siemens DOT com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> January 4, 2006 =
4:46 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Paul Keating;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
EMC SIME
with Exchange 2003</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes, I am =
mounting it to
the SIME server.&nbsp; Yes, I can see the database files.&nbsp; Yes, I =
even
tried copying these files to a different directory.&nbsp; That is what I
don&#8217;t understand.&nbsp; I have no exclude list yet when a backup =
runs for
that directory, only the directories are backed up, not the files
themselves.&nbsp; I only know this is because when I bring up the =
restore
screen, I only see directories.&nbsp; The backup has a returned code of =
zero.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ken</span></font>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Keating<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January =
04, 2006
9:46 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
EMC SIME
with Exchange 2003</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Not
with SIME.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>SIME
integrates with Exchange to take a snapshot of the exchange database to =
a
flatfile that can be backed up to tape, mounted on another exchange =
server.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>basically
the same as telling SQL to do a hot&nbsp;backup to a flat file, then =
using
netbackup to backup the flat file....no need for the SQL =
agent.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Kenneth,
are you mounting the snap on an second exchange server, starting =
exchange
services and backing&nbsp;it up from there????&nbsp;if so, then yeah, =
you would
need to use the exchange agent to backup that server.</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>you
should be just mounting the volume as a share on a regular windows =
server, and
backing it up as D:\, E:\ or whatever.....</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>can
you see the database files when you browse for restore, before =
performing the
actual restore?</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dmaroon
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Paul</span></fo=
nt></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Eliza Yam<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> January 4, 2006 =
12:16 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
kenneth.lee AT siemens DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
EMC SIME
with Exchange 2003</span></font></p>

<div>

<p =
style=3D'margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Exchange database
backup requires NBU&nbsp;Exchange Agent.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>

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1.0in'><font size=3D1 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From:
<i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>&quot;Lee, Kenneth (SBS US)&quot;
&lt;kenneth.lee AT siemens DOT com&gt;</span></i><br>
To: <i><span =
style=3D'font-style:italic'>&lt;veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu&gt;</sp=
an></i><br>
Subject: <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>[Veritas-bu] EMC SIME with =
Exchange
2003</span></i><br>
Date: <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:20:13 =
-0500</span></i></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>NetBackup 5.1 &#8211; =
Solaris</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Client:&nbsp; Exchange 2003 =
server.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am using EMC SIME to =
backup
Exchange.&nbsp; On the SIME server where the copy of the Exchange =
database is
mounted, when I do a flat file backup of the Exchange database, I =
receive a
return code of zero.&nbsp; But when I tried to restore the Exchange =
files, I
only see the directories and never the actual database files.&nbsp; What =
am I
missing and has anyone run into this problem?</span></font></p>

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