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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions

2005-11-30 11:42:52
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com (Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:42:52 -0700
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All these problems makes me think you'd be good to check your driver
settings for these tape drives.  Make sure, if nothing else, that you have
variable blocks enabled.
 
-M

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
Simon
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:31 AM
To: 'Dean'
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require
Opinions


Dean
They are failing due to (what veritas say) is bad media
NBU Activity Monitor shows status 191 !
 
 

Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean [mailto:dean.deano AT gmail DOT com] 
Sent: 30 November 2005 08:21
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require
Opinions


I would not mess with the production "working" master server. Wiping out
your active catalog on purpose and relying on bprecover to get it back
sounds ... risky. Not that I've ever seen bprecover fail, but I believe in
NOT tempting fate. 

Is it possible to have a 'spare' server sitting around, with the same OS and
hostname as the production master, but not registered in your DNS, or not
normally connected to the LAN at all? bprecover your pre-problems catalog to
it and just let it sit there until it's needed. It wouldn't need to be too
powerful. Then if a restore is required, update /etc/hosts on the client (or
the Windows equivelant) to point to your "standby" master server, do the
restore, then undo the /etc/hosts change. I've seen this done with an old
Ultra 5, and even on a VMware guest machine.

Of course, you'd also need a tape drive connected to this "standby" master
if/when you need it for a restore.

But apart from that, why are the imports failing? Bad tapes? If that's the
case, having a good catalog is not necesarily going to help. 

Remember, with import you have to complete phase 1 import of all tapes in a
connected set before beginning pase 2.

Good luck,
Dean


On 11/30/05, WEAVER, Simon < simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net
<mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> > wrote: 

Hi everyone
A week and a bit, I mentioned that all my tapes had expired through no fault
of my own.
 
Veritas has not been able to re-produce this and under their guidance,
carried on running as I am, but having to import tapes BACK into Netbackup!
 
This is not going well! The majority of imports are failing, and I am
becoming increasingly concerned about the entire system, and much more
importantly, the previous backups!
 
So, thinking about the situation, I wanted to know if this theory is
possible.
 
I still have a Catalogue Backup on a tape going back to 16th November 2005 -
prior to the problems.
 
Rather than importing the tapes like I am doing, if I need to do a restore
from a Tape say that was run in September 05, could I revert the system BACK
to how it was prior to the problems I experienced. This Catalogue tape is
currently suspended, and I have told NBU not to use this tape as a Catalogue
Backup (presently using 1 tape and 1 drive).
 
Once the restore is done, I could use BPRECOVER to revert the system BACK to
how it is now (ie: todays date).
 
I am sure there is going to be a con here (for example, recovering back to
the 16th will mean the Netbackup Database will now wonder why there are new
tapes in the Robot and probably send them to scratch!!
 
I really am looking for some alternatives options here and open to some real
help! Veritas have told me its the media thats the problem!
 
This is not looking good :(
 

Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT 
Astrium.eads DOT net>


 
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<DIV><SPAN class=670264116-30112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>All 
these problems makes me think you'd be good to check your driver settings for 
these tape drives.&nbsp; Make sure, if nothing else, that you have variable 
blocks enabled.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670264116-30112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670264116-30112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
</B>WEAVER, 
  Simon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  'Dean'<BR><B>Cc:</B> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
  [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require 
  Opinions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=161103008-30112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=161103008-30112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>They 
  are failing due to (what veritas say) is bad media</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=161103008-30112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>NBU 
  Activity Monitor shows status 191 !</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
  <P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon 
  Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT 
  face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows Domain Administrator</FONT></B><FONT 
  face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS 
  Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>Tel: 02392-70</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Email: 
  Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> 
</FONT></SPAN></P>
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    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dean 
    [mailto:dean.deano AT gmail DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 30 November 2005 
    08:21<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon<BR><B>Cc:</B> 
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
[Veritas-bu] 
    Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require 
    Opinions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>I would not mess with the production "working" 
    master server. Wiping out your active catalog on purpose and relying on 
    bprecover to get it back sounds ... risky. Not that I've ever seen 
bprecover 
    fail, but I believe in NOT tempting fate. <BR><BR>Is it possible to have a 
    'spare' server sitting around, with the same OS and hostname as the 
    production master, but not registered in your DNS, or not normally 
connected 
    to the LAN at all? bprecover your pre-problems catalog to it and just let 
it 
    sit there until it's needed. It wouldn't need to be too powerful. Then if a 
    restore is required, update /etc/hosts on the client (or the Windows 
    equivelant) to point to your "standby" master server, do the restore, then 
    undo the /etc/hosts change. I've seen this done with an old Ultra 5, and 
    even on a VMware guest machine.<BR><BR>Of course, you'd also need a tape 
    drive connected to this "standby" master if/when you need it for a 
    restore.<BR><BR>But apart from that, why are the imports failing? Bad 
tapes? 
    If that's the case, having a good catalog is not necesarily going to help. 
    <BR><BR>Remember, with import you have to complete phase 1 import of all 
    tapes in a connected set before beginning pase 2.<BR><BR>Good 
    luck,<BR>Dean<BR><BR>
    <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 11/30/05, <B class=gmail_sendername>WEAVER, 
    Simon</B> &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net">simon.weaver AT 
astrium.eads DOT net</A>&gt; 
    wrote:</SPAN> 
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote 
    style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: 
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi everyone</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>A week and a bit, I mentioned that all 
      my tapes had expired through no fault of my own.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Veritas has not been able to 
re-produce 
      this and under their guidance, carried on running as I am, but having to 
      import tapes BACK into Netbackup!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is not going well! The majority 
of 
      imports are failing, and I am becoming increasingly concerned about the 
      entire system, and much more importantly, the previous 
      backups!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, thinking about the situation, I 
      wanted to know if this theory is possible.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>I still have a Catalogue Backup on a 
      tape going back to 16th November 2005 - prior to the 
      problems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rather than importing the tapes like I 
      am doing, if I need to do a restore from a Tape say that was run in 
      September 05, could I revert the system BACK to how it was prior to the 
      problems I experienced. This Catalogue tape is currently suspended, and I 
      have told NBU not to use this tape as a Catalogue Backup (presently using 
      1 tape and 1 drive).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Once the restore is done, I could use 
      BPRECOVER to revert the system BACK to how it is now (ie: todays 
      date).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am sure there is going to be a con 
      here (for example, recovering back to the 16th will mean the Netbackup 
      Database will now wonder why there are new tapes in the Robot and 
probably 
      send them to scratch!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>I really am looking for some 
      alternatives options here and open to some real help! Veritas have told 
me 
      its the media thats the problem!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is not looking good 
      :(</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon 
      Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial 
      color=#0000ff size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT 
      face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows 
      Domain Administrator </FONT></B><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN></P>
      <P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS 
      Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT 
      face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tel: 
      02392-70</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT 
      face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
      <P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Email: <A 
      onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
      href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net" 
      target=_blank>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</A></FONT></B><FONT 
      face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
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