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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions

2005-11-29 11:00:40
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions
From: pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca (Paul Keating)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:00:40 -0500
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If I were in your situation, depending on how far back your retentions
go (months or years?)
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I would take a list of everything backed up SINCE Nov 16th, and pull
those tapes.
then I would recover the system form the Nov 16th pre-failure catalog,
then once backup to that point, try to import the backups that occured
SINCE that date.
would probably be WAY fewer tapes to import.
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Just curious as to why you didn't recover your catalog from tape as soon
as you discovered this minor catastrophe.........that's what the catalog
backup is for!!
Easier to restore catalog than to import all those tapes......probably
still easier to go back to that point now!!
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Paul

        -----Original Message-----
        From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon
        Sent: November 29, 2005 10:51 AM
        To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
        Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Broke - Possible Way Out and
Require Opinions
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        Hi everyone
        A week and a bit, I mentioned that all my tapes had expired
through no fault of my own.
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        Veritas has not been able to re-produce this and under their
guidance, carried on running as I am, but having to import tapes BACK
into Netbackup!
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        This is not going well! The majority of imports are failing, and
I am becoming increasingly concerned about the entire system, and much
more importantly, the previous backups!
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        So, thinking about the situation, I wanted to know if this
theory is possible.
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        I still have a Catalogue Backup on a tape going back to 16th
November 2005 - prior to the problems.
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        Rather than importing the tapes like I am doing, if I need to do
a restore from a Tape say that was run in September 05, could I revert
the system BACK to how it was prior to the problems I experienced. This
Catalogue tape is currently suspended, and I have told NBU not to use
this tape as a Catalogue Backup (presently using 1 tape and 1 drive).
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        Once the restore is done, I could use BPRECOVER to revert the
system BACK to how it is now (ie: todays date).
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        I am sure there is going to be a con here (for example,
recovering back to the 16th will mean the Netbackup Database will now
wonder why there are new tapes in the Robot and probably send them to
scratch!!
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        I really am looking for some alternatives options here and open
to some real help! Veritas have told me its the media thats the problem!
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        This is not looking good :(
        =20

        Simon Weaver
        Technical Support
        Windows Domain Administrator=20

        EADS Astrium
        Tel: 02392-708598=20

        Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net=20

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>If I=20
were in your situation, depending on how far back your retentions go =
(months or=20
years?)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>I=20
would take a list of everything backed up SINCE Nov 16th, and pull those =

tapes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>then I=20
would recover the system form the Nov 16th pre-failure catalog, then =
once backup=20
to that point, try to import the backups that occured SINCE that=20
date.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>would=20
probably be WAY fewer tapes to import.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Just=20
curious as to why you didn't recover your catalog from tape as soon as =
you=20
discovered this minor catastrophe.........that's what the catalog backup =
is=20
for!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Easier=20
to restore catalog than to import all those tapes......probably still =
easier to=20
go back to that point now!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D629445715-29112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =

size=3D2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>WEAVER,=20
  Simon<BR><B>Sent:</B> November 29, 2005 10:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu] =
Netbackup=20
  Broke - Possible Way Out and Require Opinions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi=20
  everyone</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A =
week and a bit,=20
  I mentioned that all my tapes had expired through no fault of my=20
  own.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Veritas has not=20
  been able to re-produce this and under their guidance, carried on =
running as I=20
  am, but having to import tapes BACK into =
Netbackup!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This =
is not going=20
  well! The majority of imports are failing, and I am becoming =
increasingly=20
  concerned about the entire system, and much more importantly, the =
previous=20
  backups!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, =
thinking about=20
  the situation, I wanted to know if this theory is=20
possible.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I =
still have a=20
  Catalogue Backup on a tape going back to 16th November 2005 - prior to =
the=20
  problems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Rather than=20
  importing the tapes like I am doing, if I need to do a restore from a =
Tape say=20
  that was run in September 05, could I revert the system BACK to how it =
was=20
  prior to the problems I experienced. This Catalogue tape is currently=20
  suspended, and I have told NBU not to use this tape as a Catalogue =
Backup=20
  (presently using 1 tape and 1 drive).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once =
the restore=20
  is done, I could use BPRECOVER to revert the system BACK to how it is =
now (ie:=20
  todays date).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am =
sure there is=20
  going to be a con here (for example, recovering back to the 16th will =
mean the=20
  Netbackup Database will now wonder why there are new tapes in the =
Robot and=20
  probably send them to scratch!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I =
really am=20
  looking for some alternatives options here and open to some real help! =
Veritas=20
  have told me its the media thats the problem!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D807304415-29112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This =
is not=20
  looking good :(</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Simon=20
  Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT =
face=3DArial><BR></FONT><B><FONT=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Windows Domain =
Administrator</FONT></B><FONT=20
  face=3DArial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><B><I><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EADS=20
  Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT =
face=3DArial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2>Tel: 02392-70</FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=3DArial> =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000 =
size=3D2>Email:=20
  Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</FONT></B><FONT face=3DArial> =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
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