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[Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label

2005-11-18 00:00:29
Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label
From: dean.deano AT gmail DOT com (Dean)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:00:29 +1100
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It varies from library to library. Some (most?) libraries don't report the
last 2 characters to NetBackup, but the the library might still use it
internally to determine which media can be mounted in what type of drive.

You should check with the vendor.

And if you really must print your own labels, make sure the paper you print
on is sufficiently "sticky". Remember it can get prettty warm inside tape
libraries, and even warmer inside tape drives. There's nothing worse than
coming in and the morning and seeing your brand new tape labels liberally
sprinkled across the floor of your library. I'm speaking from experience
here ;)

Cheers,
Dean

On 11/16/05, Jim Peppas <perf AT peppas DOT gr> wrote:
>
> From my knowledge, some libraries dont care what the label says (ATL, HP,
> IBM). Maybe for STK it matters.
>
> If you are running out of media and don't have another choice, use the L1
> labels. If you can print them (there is a good tool at
> http://www.jdtools.ca/ltobarcode.html ) , more the better.
>
> Anyway it's really a matter of being tidy.... :)
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> > -------Original Message-------
> > From: Brochart, Fabrice <fabrice_brochart AT storagetek DOT com>
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label
> > Sent: 16 Nov '05 11:26
> >
> > Well, I think that the L1 and L2 letters is just at the end of the
> label, so NetBackup doesn't "see" this caracters.
> >
> > These lettres is just used by robotics to determine which sort of media=
.
> >
> > And Simon is right, use the correct label if definitively the good
> choice.
> >
> > F@b
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net]
> > Sent: mercredi 16 novembre 2005 12:14
> > To: 'Jim Peppas'; Brochart, Fabrice; Dongfang_Liao AT kaltire DOT com;
> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label
> >
> >
> > Maybe its best to stick with the correct labels ;-)
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Peppas [mailto:perf AT peppas DOT gr]
> >
> > Sent: 16 November 2005 11:08
> > To: Brochart, Fabrice; Dongfang_Liao AT kaltire DOT com;
> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just define barcode rules to ensure that new tapes (with the L1 suffix)
> will be defined as hcart2 media.
> >
> > Just be sure that you do not have overlapping barcodes (A0000L1-A9999L1
> and
> > A00000L2-A99999L2) because NBU uses (when properly defined) the first 6
> chars, so A00000L1 will be labeled as A00000. When you put A00000L2 in th=
e
> library, you will get the error "media not unique in database"
> >
> > Many robots also have the functionality to report a given number of
> chars, but this might be dangerous if you have overlapping barcodes. If y=
ou
> put
> > A00000L1 in the lib, it will report to NBU A00000. So if you put
> A00000L2 in, then it will think it is the A00000(L1) tape.Big mess!!!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim Peppas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >-------Original Message-------
> > >From: Brochart, Fabrice <fabrice_brochart AT storagetek DOT com>
> > >Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label
> > >Sent: 16 Nov '05 10:37
> > >
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> >
> > >I think that you use a robot, so it's not a good idea to use a LTO1
> >
> > > label on a LTO2 tape.
> > >
> >
> > >Otherwise the robot think that you have a true LTO2 tape, and you
> >
> > > can'tmake difference between tapes.
> > >
> >
> > >But a LTO2 drive can write on a LTO1 tape with performance of LTO1
> >
> > > drive.
> > >
> >
> > >So you have to choose, but...
> > >
> >
> > >Hth
> > >
> >
> > >F@b
> > >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > >[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
> >
> > > Dongfang_Liao AT kaltire DOT com
> > >Sent: mercredi 16 novembre 2005 00:53
> > >To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > >Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label
> > >
> >
> > >Hi Everyone,
> > >
> >
> > >Can I use LTO1 label (end with L1) on the LTO2 tapes? Or do I have to
> >
> > > buy LTO2 label (end with L2) to stick on my LTO2 tapes?
> > >
> >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> >
> > >_______________________________________________
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It varies from library to library. Some (most?) libraries don't report
the last 2 characters to NetBackup, but the the library might still use
it internally to determine which media can be mounted in what type of
drive.<br>
<br>
You should check with the vendor. <br>
<br>
And if you really must print your own labels, make sure the paper you
print on is sufficiently &quot;sticky&quot;. Remember it can get prettty wa=
rm
inside tape libraries, and even warmer inside tape drives. There's
nothing worse than coming in and the morning and seeing your brand new
tape labels liberally sprinkled across the floor of your library. I'm
speaking from experience here ;)<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Dean<br>
<br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11/16/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendern=
ame">Jim Peppas</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perf AT peppas DOT gr">perf AT peppas 
DOT gr</a=
>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: =
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;=
">
>From my knowledge, some libraries dont care what the label says (ATL, HP, I=
BM). Maybe for STK it matters.<br><br>If
you are running out of media and don't have another choice, use the L1
labels. If you can print them (there is a good tool at
<a href=3D"http://www.jdtools.ca/ltobarcode.html";>http://www.jdtools.ca/lto=
barcode.html</a> ) , more the better.<br><br>Anyway it's really a matter of=
 being tidy....&nbsp;&nbsp;:)<br><br>Regards,<br>Jim<br><br><br><br><br><br=
>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;-------Original Message-------
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;From: Brochart, Fabrice &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fabrice_b=
rochart AT storagetek DOT com">fabrice_brochart AT storagetek DOT 
com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sent: =
16 Nov '05 11:26<br>&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Well,
I think that the L1 and L2 letters is just at the end of the label, so
NetBackup doesn't &quot;see&quot; this caracters.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;These lettres is just used by robotics to determine which sort of media.<=
br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;And Simon is right, use the correct label if def=
initively the good choice.
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;F@b<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;-----Original Me=
ssage-----<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto=
:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net">simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT 
net</a>]<br>&gt;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;Sent: mercredi 16 novembre 2005 12:14
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;To: 'Jim Peppas'; Brochart, Fabrice; <a href=3D"mailto:=
Dongfang_Liao AT kaltire DOT com">Dongfang_Liao AT kaltire DOT com</a>; <a 
href=3D"mailto=
:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu</a><b=
r>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape label
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe its best to stick with the correc=
t labels ;-)<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Simon<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&g=
t;&nbsp;&nbsp;-----Original Message-----<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;From: Jim Peppa=
s [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:perf AT peppas DOT gr">
perf AT peppas DOT gr</a>]<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sent: 16 November 2005 
11:08=
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;To: Brochart, Fabrice; <a href=3D"mailto:Dongfang_Liao@=
kaltire.com">Dongfang_Liao AT kaltire DOT com</a>; <a 
href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu@ma=
ilman.eng.auburn.edu">
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject: RE: 
[Veri=
tas-bu] LTO2 tape label<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi,<br>&=
gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Just define barcode rules to ensure that new tapes (=
with the L1 suffix) will be defined as hcart2 media.
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Just be sure that you do not have overlapping b=
arcodes (A0000L1-A9999L1 and<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;A00000L2-A99999L2)
because NBU uses (when properly defined) the first 6 chars, so A00000L1
will be labeled as A00000. When you put A00000L2 in the library, you
will get the error &quot;media not unique in database&quot;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;Many
robots also have the functionality to report a given number of chars,
but this might be dangerous if you have overlapping barcodes. If you put<br=
>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;A00000L1
in the lib, it will report to NBU A00000. So if you put A00000L2 in,
then it will think it is the A00000(L1) tape.Big mess!!!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br=
>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Regards,<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jim Peppas<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>=
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;-------Original Message=
-------<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;From: Brochart, Fabrice &lt;
<a href=3D"mailto:fabrice_brochart AT storagetek DOT 
com">fabrice_brochart@storage=
tek.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO2 tape =
label<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Sent: 16 Nov '05 10:37<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;=
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Hi,<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;I think that you use a =
robot, so it's not a good idea to use a LTO1<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt=
; label on a LTO2 tape.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&gt;Otherwise the robot think that you have a true LTO2 tape, and you
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; can'tmake difference between tapes.<br>&gt=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;But a LTO2 drive can write=
 on a LTO1 tape with performance of LTO1<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; dr=
ive.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;So you have to =
choose, but...
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Hth<br>&gt;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;F@b<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;=
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;-----Original Message-----<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;F=
rom: <a href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu">veritas-bu-=
admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu-admin@mail=
man.eng.auburn.edu">veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a>] On 
Behalf =
Of<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:Dongfang_Liao@kaltire.=
com">Dongfang_Liao AT kaltire DOT com
</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Sent: mercredi 16 novembre 2005 00:53<br>&gt;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&gt;To: <a href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu">veri=
tas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Subject: 
[Veritas-=
bu] LTO2 tape label<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Hi Everyone,<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt=
;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Can I use LTO1 label (end with L1) on the LTO2 tap=
es? Or do I have to<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; buy LTO2 label (end wit=
h L2) to stick on my LTO2 tapes?<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;Thanks<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;____________________________________=
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