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[Veritas-bu] Court No-destroy on backups
2005-10-18 13:50:18
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Being paranoid if it were me I'd do this AND make sure I put the tapes
on write-protect so no one accidentally overwrote them with tar or cpio.
Remember the commands noted below only impact the way Netbackup sees it.
Any other utility would be quite willing to overwrite the contents if
not write-protected.
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You might want to get clarification on the no-destroy. Infinite
retention in Netbackup as I recall actually only means 8 years. =20
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Also even if the tape is "expired" the data IS actually still on the
tape so unless its multiplexed you could restore it with tar.
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________________________________
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:26 PM
To: bwindle AT wlgore DOT com; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Court No-destroy on backups
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Freezing will prevent the data on the expired tape from being
overwritten but your catalog tracking for it is going to get whacked.
You'd have to import the tape to get it recreated. I'm with Kate on
this, change the expiration date. See the "bpexpdate" command for this.
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-M
-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Bobby R
Windle
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:53 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Court No-destroy on backups
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I have backups on media that have a retention policy I will
exceed sooner or later. I asked=20
our support vendor a year ago about how can I assure that the
data and catalog stuff will not=20
go away on me. They said all I need to do is do a bpmedia -
freeze -m VOLNAME. Is this true?=20
Will the catalog data stay as well?=20
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Thanks=20
=09
Bobby Windle
W.L. Gore & associates, Inc.
bwindle AT wlgore DOT com
cell : (302) 588-7374 (preferred)
office: (410) 506-4117 fax: (410) 506-4400
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Being paranoid if it were me =
I’d do
this AND make sure I put the tapes on write-protect so no one =
accidentally
overwrote them with tar or cpio. Remember the commands noted =
below only
impact the way Netbackup sees it. Any other utility would be =
quite willing to
overwrite the contents if not =
write-protected.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You might want to get clarification =
on the
no-destroy. Infinite retention in Netbackup as I recall =
actually only means 8
years. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also even if the tape is =
“expired”
the data IS actually still on the tape so unless its multiplexed you =
could
restore it with tar.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, October =
18, 2005
1:26 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bwindle AT wlgore DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
Court
No-destroy on backups</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Freezing will prevent the data on =
the
expired tape from being overwritten but your catalog tracking for it is =
going
to get whacked. You'd have to import the tape to get it =
recreated.
I'm with Kate on this, change the expiration date. See the
"bpexpdate" command for this.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bobby R Windle<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, October =
18, 2005
10:53 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] =
Court
No-destroy on backups</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:sans-serif'>I have backups on media that have a retention =
policy I
will exceed sooner or later. I asked</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>our
support vendor a year ago about how can I assure that the data and =
catalog
stuff will not</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>go
away on me. They said all I need to do is do a bpmedia - freeze -m =
VOLNAME. Is
this true?</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Will
the catalog data stay as well?</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Thanks</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'><br>
Bobby Windle<br>
W.L. Gore & associates, Inc.<br>
bwindle AT wlgore DOT com<br>
cell : (302) 588-7374 (preferred)<br>
office: (410) 506-4117 fax: (410) =
506-4400</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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