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[Veritas-bu] Solaris DR

2004-12-16 13:38:59
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Solaris DR
From: Scott.Chapman AT icbc DOT com (Chapman, Scott)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:38:59 -0800
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Does anyone know how BMR handles root disks that are mirrored with Volume
manager rather than disksuite?  One might expect that since VM is a Veritas
product (same as BMR) that they might be handled nicely, however, I have not
done any testing and haven't seen docs one way or the other . . .

Thanks!

Scott Chapman
ICBC - Victoria, Government St.
Phone: 250.414.7650  Cell: 250.213.9295



-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Keating [mailto:pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca] 
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:11 AM
To: Mickey Baker
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Solaris DR


Yes we currently have BMR setup in the lab, and are doing some testing
right now.....as a matter of fact, a win2k3 server is rebooting as I
type this.....definately seems easier, to a point.
BMR still can't restore SDS mirrored disks the way they were
originally.....you end up with one disk and have to rebuild the
metadisks.....but it's a lot easier than building the machine to start,
restoring, breaking metadisks to get the restored disk to boot, then
repairing the metadisks.

Yeah, I'd definitely be interested in seeing this case you have
documented.
You can post it to the list, or send directly to me.

Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mickey Baker [mailto:mbaker AT glasshouse DOT com] 
> Sent: December 16, 2004 1:05 PM
> To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Solaris DR
> 
> 
> BMR makes things really easy - once you set up your BMR 
> server and make everything work, it will restore system 
> images that you create from a system to identical hardware 
> until the cows come home.
>  
> There are quite a few steps getting a Solaris server restored 
> exactly like it was before the rebuild.  You are correct in 
> assuming that a rebuild/restore of a bootable system in a 
> subordinate file system (as explained in the Troubleshooting 
> Guide) is not sufficient to restore the system. I have a 
> specific case documented (Solaris 8 on a Sun 6800) and will 
> be happy to post it if you want when I return home this weekend.
>  
> Mickey Baker
> Senior Consultant
> GlassHouse Technologies
> mbaker AT glasshouse DOT com
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu on behalf of 
> Paul Keating
> Sent: Thu 12/16/2004 9:44 AM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Solaris DR
> 
> 
> just a general question, but how are most of you folks 
> handling disaster recovery for Sun.
>  
> We're currently evaluating Veritas BMR, but right now our 
> process is as follows.
>  
> All of our machines have, at the minimum, mirrored OS disks.
>  
> Our recovery involves jumpstarting the machine with a single 
> disk, c0t0d0...configuring netbackup, then creating slices on 
> the second disk, c0t2d2 and mounting those from the OS 
> running on the first......so c0t0d0s1 is mounted on /mnt/a 
> and c0t0d0s7 is mounted on /mnt/b.......the restore is then 
> performed, dumping the data onto /mnt/a and mnt/b.
> once completed, we edit the config info on the disk, 
> /mnt/a/etc/system, /mnt/a/etc/fstab, etc.....to remove any 
> reference to the SDS meta disks.
>  
> The machine is then rebooted on the c0t0d1, and the 
> metadevices are created, with one way mirrors, then the 
> mirror is resynced back to c0t0d0.
>  
> pretty tedious, but i've been told that building the OS, with 
> mirrors, then restoring in place and overwriting existing 
> files will not get the system back to it's original state.
>  
> any comments???
>  
> Paul
> 
> 

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Does anyone know how BMR handles root disks that are =
mirrored with Volume manager rather than disksuite?&nbsp; One might =
expect that since VM is a Veritas product (same as BMR) that they might =
be handled nicely, however, I have not done any testing and haven't =
seen docs one way or the other . . .</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Scott Chapman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ICBC - Victoria, Government St.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Phone: 250.414.7650&nbsp; Cell: 250.213.9295</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Paul Keating [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca">mailto:pkeating@bank-banq=
ue-canada.ca</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:11 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Mickey Baker</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Solaris DR</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yes we currently have BMR setup in the lab, and are =
doing some testing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>right now.....as a matter of fact, a win2k3 server =
is rebooting as I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>type this.....definately seems easier, to a =
point.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>BMR still can't restore SDS mirrored disks the way =
they were</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>originally.....you end up with one disk and have to =
rebuild the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>metadisks.....but it's a lot easier than building =
the machine to start,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>restoring, breaking metadisks to get the restored =
disk to boot, then</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>repairing the metadisks.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yeah, I'd definitely be interested in seeing this =
case you have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>documented.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>You can post it to the list, or send directly to =
me.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Paul</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Mickey Baker [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:mbaker AT glasshouse DOT com">mailto:mbaker AT glasshouse DOT 
com</A>] =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: December 16, 2004 1:05 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Paul Keating; =
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Solaris DR</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; BMR makes things really easy - once you set up =
your BMR </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; server and make everything work, it will =
restore system </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; images that you create from a system to =
identical hardware </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; until the cows come home.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; There are quite a few steps getting a Solaris =
server restored </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; exactly like it was before the rebuild.&nbsp; =
You are correct in </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; assuming that a rebuild/restore of a bootable =
system in a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; subordinate file system (as explained in the =
Troubleshooting </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Guide) is not sufficient to restore the system. =
I have a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; specific case documented (Solaris 8 on a Sun =
6800) and will </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; be happy to post it if you want when I return =
home this weekend.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Mickey Baker</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Senior Consultant</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; GlassHouse Technologies</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; mbaker AT glasshouse DOT com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ________________________________</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu =
on behalf of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Paul Keating</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Thu 12/16/2004 9:44 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: [Veritas-bu] Solaris DR</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; just a general question, but how are most of =
you folks </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; handling disaster recovery for Sun.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; We're currently evaluating Veritas BMR, but =
right now our </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; process is as follows.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; All of our machines have, at the minimum, =
mirrored OS disks.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Our recovery involves jumpstarting the machine =
with a single </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; disk, c0t0d0...configuring netbackup, then =
creating slices on </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the second disk, c0t2d2 and mounting those from =
the OS </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; running on the first......so c0t0d0s1 is =
mounted on /mnt/a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and c0t0d0s7 is mounted on /mnt/b.......the =
restore is then </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; performed, dumping the data onto /mnt/a and =
mnt/b.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; once completed, we edit the config info on the =
disk, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; /mnt/a/etc/system, /mnt/a/etc/fstab, etc.....to =
remove any </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; reference to the SDS meta disks.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The machine is then rebooted on the c0t0d1, and =
the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; metadevices are created, with one way mirrors, =
then the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; mirror is resynced back to c0t0d0.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; pretty tedious, but i've been told that =
building the OS, with </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; mirrors, then restoring in place and =
overwriting existing </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; files will not get the system back to it's =
original state.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; any comments???</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Paul</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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