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[Veritas-bu] Changing Master Server Hostname

2004-10-20 12:25:32
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Changing Master Server Hostname
From: GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com (Greenberg, Katherine A)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:25:32 -0400
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There are a bunch of different classes out there=2E=2E=2E=0D=0A =0D=0ADesig=
n, Oracle, standard admin=2E=2E=2E=0D=0A =0D=0ADo a search of the course ca=
talog at Veritas=2Ecom=0D=0A =0D=0A~Kate=0D=0A =0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A~~~~~~~~~=
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ =0D=0AKatherine Greenberg =0D=0ASystems Engineer =0D=0AMi=
d-Range Storage Management =0D=0AAetna, Inc=2E =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A-----Origi=
nal Message-----=0D=0AFrom: veritas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu=
=0D=0A[mailto:veritas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu] On Behalf Of E=
liza Yam=0D=0ASent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:18 PM=0D=0ATo: ewilts@ew=
ilts=2Eorg; juanino@yahoo=2Ecom=0D=0ACc: Jeff=2EG=2ESchmitz@conocophillips=
=2Ecom; veritas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu=0D=0ASubject: Re: [Veritas-=
bu] Changing Master Server Hostname=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AHi all,=0D=0A=0D=
=0AIt is hard to get technical advice for non-ordinary issues=2E  Veritas h=
as=0D=0Aa tendency to refer customers to their consulting services=2E   Als=
o, I=0D=0Awould like to see Veritas offers training classes on specialized =
topics=0D=0Ae=2Eg=2E SSO, clustered server configuration, Oracle DB, & etc=
=2E =0D=0A=0D=0AEliza=0D=0A=0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0A>Fro=
m: Ed Wilts <ewilts@ewilts=2Eorg> =0D=0A>To: Jerry <juanino@yahoo=2Ecom> =
=0D=0A>CC: "Schmitz, Jeff" <Jeff=2EG=2ESchmitz@conocophillips=2Ecom>,=0D=0A=
veritas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu =0D=0A>Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Ch=
anging Master Server Hostname =0D=0A>Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:38:05 -0500 =
=0D=0A> =0D=0A>On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 10:55:47AM -0700, Jerry wrote: =0D=
=0A> > I've been told "don't do this" by Veritas as well as =0D=0A> > by nu=
merous people on this list=2E =0D=0A> =0D=0A>It can be done but it's non-tr=
ivial=2E  We did a simultaneous migration=0D=0Aof =0D=0A>Windows to Solaris=
 changing host names along the way=2E  It took us a =0D=0A>couple of tries =
and it's not for the faint of heart=2E  If you're =0D=0A>comfortable doing =
hex dumps of the data files, writing some perl, and =0D=0A>have a good know=
ledge of data structures, you can figure it out=2E  If =0D=0A>you're not co=
mfortable doing that, then changing host names is not for =0D=0A>you=2E  I =
wouldn't even think about it if your master server is on =0D=0A>Windows - m=
ost of the work in our migration was done on the target, not=0D=0A=0D=0A>th=
e source=2E =0D=0A> =0D=0A> > I think it's a load =0D=0A> > of garbage that=
 they tied it to the hostname so =0D=0A> > tightly=2E =0D=0A> =0D=0A>It's c=
ertainly a bad design decision and one that I hopefully will =0D=0A>see cha=
nged in an upcoming release=2E =0D=0A> =0D=0A>-- =0D=0A>Ed Wilts, Mounds Vi=
ew, MN, USA =0D=0A>mailto:ewilts@ewilts=2Eorg =0D=0A>______________________=
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-admin@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu =0D=0A[mailto:veritas-bu-admin@mailman=
=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Eliza =0D=0AYam<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =0D=0Aewilts@ewilts=2Eor=
g; juanino@yahoo=2Ecom<BR><B>Cc:</B> =0D=0AJeff=2EG=2ESchmitz@conocophillip=
s=2Ecom; =0D=0Averitas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu<BR><B>Subject:</B> R=
e: [Veritas-bu] Changing =0D=0AMaster Server Hostname<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>=
=0D=0A<DIV>=0D=0A<DIV class=3DRTE>=0D=0A<P>Hi all,</P>=0D=0A<P>It is hard t=
o get technical advice for&nbsp;non-ordinary issues=2E&nbsp; =0D=0AVeritas =
has a tendency to refer customers to their consulting =0D=0Aservices=2E&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Also, I would like to see Veritas offers training classes =0D=0Aon=
 specialized topics&nbsp;e=2Eg=2E SSO, clustered server configuration,&nbsp=
;Oracle =0D=0ADB, &amp; etc=2E </P>=0D=0A<P>Eliza</P>=0D=0A<P>&nbsp;</P>=0D=
=0A<P><BR><BR>&nbsp;</P></DIV>=0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Ed Wilts &lt;ewilt=
s@ewilts=2Eorg&gt; =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Jerry &lt;juanino@yahoo=2Ecom&g=
t; =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;CC: "Schmitz, Jeff" =0D=0A&lt;Jeff=2EG=2ESchmitz@co=
nocophillips=2Ecom&gt;,&nbsp;&nbsp; =0D=0Averitas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=
=2Eedu =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Changing Master Serve=
r Hostname =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:38:05 -0500 =0D=
=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt; =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 10:55:47AM =
-0700, Jerry wrote: =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I've been told "don't do thi=
s" by Veritas as well as =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; by numerous people on t=
his list=2E =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt; =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;It can be done but i=
t's non-trivial=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;We did a =0D=0Asimultaneous migration of =0D=
=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;Windows to Solaris changing host names along the =0D=0Awa=
y=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;It took us a =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;couple of tries and it's =
not for the faint of =0D=0Aheart=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;If you're =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&=
gt;comfortable doing hex dumps of the data files, writing some perl, =0D=0A=
and =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;have a good knowledge of data structures, you can =
figure it =0D=0Aout=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;If =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;you're not comfor=
table doing that, then changing host names is =0D=0Anot for =0D=0A<DIV></DI=
V>&gt;you=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;I wouldn't even think about it if your master =0D=
=0Aserver is on =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;Windows - most of the work in our migr=
ation was done on the =0D=0Atarget, not =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;the source=2E =
=0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt; =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I think it's a load =0D=0A=
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; of garbage that they tied it to the hostname so =0D=0A=
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; tightly=2E =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt; =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;=
It's certainly a bad design decision and one that I hopefully =0D=0Awill =
=0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;see changed in an upcoming release=2E =0D=0A<DIV></DIV=
>&gt; =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;-- =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;Ed Wilts, Mounds View, M=
N, USA =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt;mailto:ewilts@ewilts=2Eorg =0D=0A<DIV></DIV>&gt=
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