On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 12:10:18PM -0400, Hall, Christian N. wrote:
> How large is your environment? Was Bocada not scalable to what you needed ?

We've got a single Solaris master/media, a Windows media server, and
another Solaris media server.  We've got around 110 clients so far
backing up to an L700 robot with 8 SDLT220 drives.  We do from 800-1000
jobs per day.  Typical backup volume size is 2-4TB per day.  This
probably isn't large for some people here but huge compared to others.

BackupReport was very, very slow in part because of the way it polls
from the master server on a regular basis to get updates.  The
StorageConsole server gets its updates as each backup job completes. I
had factored in the delays introduced by the slow SQL server we used for
our eval and still determined that we could not acceptable response for
the  

One of the other driving differences was Bocada's requirement to install
a fat client whereas StorageConsole uses a browser interface.  With
Bocada tech support on the phone helping me, it took about 3-4 hours to
install the client on my desktop (a fairly standard Win2K system) and
required multiple reboots.  I couldn't imagine trying to roll this out
to all the users who need access to the data.  I don't even know if
non-Windows clients are available - some of our admins use HPUX and
Solaris as their primary desktops.  Overall, the Bocada product worked
(barely) and did have a few nice features (since added to
StorageConsole) but there were enough downsides that we likely wouldn't
have purchased it even if StorageConsole wouldn't have whupped its butt.

        .../Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org] 
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:49 AM
> To: John Meyers
> Cc: Bobby R Windle; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Reporting Software
> 
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:20:08AM -0400, John Meyers wrote:
> > Bobby R Windle wrote:
> > >
> > >Anyone no of any kind of Netbackup Reporting Software at a reasonable 
> > >price?  I'm looking for something
> > >that reports on clients as well as totals.  Files missed etc.   Anything 
> > >but Advanced reporter!
> > >
> > >thanks
> > >bobby
> > 
> >  Have you checked out Aptare? http://www.aptare.com/index.jsp  Not 
> > sure about the pricing, but the specs look pretty good.  Anyone using  
> > this product care to comment on it?
>  
> We evaluated both Bocada's BackupReport and Aptare's StorageConsole at the
> same time.  Aptare wins in every category from installation, ease of use,
> and vendor cooperation.  I started with BR and thought it was okay but not
> great.  I then installed SC and the eval was effectively over - it wins
> hands down.  We requested some features to be added to the product as part
> of the purchase agreement and they did a great job in supplying those
> features in a reasonable time.  The rest of you Aptare customers can thank
> me for a few of those :-)
> 
> The pricing models between Bocada and Aptare are quite different so what's
> cheaper for one customer could be more expensive for another.
> The only way to know what you'll have to pay is to request a quote from
> both.
> 
> --
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org

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Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org