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Kendall, Scott APX wrote:
>Yeah, but what if you had some Policies already disabled. When you go to
>reactivate them you have to remember which ones need to be done and which
>ones need to stay that way.
>
>More importantly, I've seen weird things happen when changing multiple
>things at once when doing this type of large GUI change. I've seen it
>complain when trying to do Policies or schedules from different Policy types
>all at once, even though what was being changed was not Policy specific.
>I've also seen it change things that were greyed out (because they were set
>differently on the different clients/Policies) even though the field was not
>selected to be changed. Because of this, I make a point of really looking
>closely at what gets changed when doing large changes like this and try to
>limit them if possible.
>
>The last thing I want to do when troubleshooting a tape drive or SSO issue
>is inadvertently make a change to my Policies as well.
>
>I'm not the only person that used 0 for tries to stop the scheduler from
>starting new backups, so I don't think I'll be alone in missing it.
>
>It looks like according to other posters, the scheduler is still OK with 0
>as a valid value and it can be set with CLI and unix GUI, so as long as
>that's the case I guess I'll be happy enough.
>
>
>- Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Andresen [mailto:gary.andresen AT pnwdata DOT com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:16 AM
>To: Kendall, Scott APX; 'veritas-bu'
>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is there any command to deactive all jobs...
>
>Well IF you can use the Windows GUI (NOT the JAVA GUI) you can highlight
>all your policies and deactivate and activate them with a right button
>click.
>Left click on 'Policies', this will bring up all your polices on the right
>hand pane. You can then select policies using the standard mouse selection
>feature of windows. Then right click to bring up the menu, select
>deactivate or activate.
>
>
>
>
>Gary Andresen
>Impossible Happens, Plan Ahead
>Pacific Northwest Data Inc.
>Tel: 503.701.5185
>Fax: 503.692.3910
>gary.andresen AT pnwdata DOT com
>www.pnwdata.com
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-
>>admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Kendall, Scott APX
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:17 PM
>>To: veritas-bu
>>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is there any command to deactive all jobs...
>>
>>Yeah, until you go to 5.0.
>>
>>I complained because the GUI no longer lets you set 0 tries. They told
>>me
>>it was by design... why would anybody want to use something less than 1?
>>
>>Obviously, they don't have to manage NetBackup and have never had to
>>troubleshoot an issue and wanted none of the jobs to start while doing
>>so...
>>and since stopping bprd will keep the GUI from starting, which is kind of
>>a
>>pain sometimes, that leaves deactivating all Policies according to the
>>support tech.
>>
>>I haven't tried editing the config file directly or using CLI to change
>>it
>>to see if that still allows it.
>>
>>Support suggested submitting a feature enhancement to get it put back
>>in...
>>funny, you have to request a "new" feature to get something put back in
>>that
>>until recently has been in there for many versions and years.
>>
>>
>>- Scott
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: King, Cheryl [mailto:cheryl.king AT intrado DOT com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:09 PM
>>To: Asiye Yigit; veritas-bu
>>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is there any command to deactive all jobs...
>>
>>I have changed the host properties for the master server for Schedule
>>backup
>>attempts to 0 tries (in the Admin Console). That works.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Asiye
>>Yigit
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:13 PM
>>To: veritas-bu
>>Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is there any command to deactive all jobs...
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>We will upgrade NB4.5MP5 to NB5.1. During this upgarde procedure,
>>I mean after upgrading netbackup master server, we would not want jobs
>>to start automatically (there are some
>>jobs, we need to break/cancel before the upgrade. After this upgrade,
>>these jobs can be enter the queue).
>>There are lots of policies. so, it is so tedious to take all policy to
>>in a deactivated state.
>>During the media servers or client upgrade, I think netbackup master
>>server deamon must be open.
>>The way may be stopping bprd daemon because it is responsible to
>>activate bpsched deamon.
>>
>>i am searching if it is necessary or whether there is a command to
>>deactivate
>>all jobs and after the procedure, active all of them.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Asiye Yigit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
>>_______________________________________________
>>Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
>>
>>
>
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Senior Operating System Programmer/Analyst
UNIX Application Services R101
The MITRE Corporation
202 Burlington Road - K101
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Kendall, Scott APX wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid3977EF56F5531F44AE6293548B66B0150AC128EA AT
hpdapx02.northamerica.intra.abbott DOT com"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Yeah, but what if you had some Policies already disabled. When
you go to
reactivate them you have to remember which ones need to be done and which
ones need to stay that way.
More importantly, I've seen weird things happen when changing multiple
things at once when doing this type of large GUI change. I've seen it
complain when trying to do Policies or schedules from different Policy types
all at once, even though what was being changed was not Policy specific.
I've also seen it change things that were greyed out (because they were set
differently on the different clients/Policies) even though the field was not
selected to be changed. Because of this, I make a point of really looking
closely at what gets changed when doing large changes like this and try to
limit them if possible.
The last thing I want to do when troubleshooting a tape drive or SSO issue
is inadvertently make a change to my Policies as well.
I'm not the only person that used 0 for tries to stop the scheduler from
starting new backups, so I don't think I'll be alone in missing it.
It looks like according to other posters, the scheduler is still OK with 0
as a valid value and it can be set with CLI and unix GUI, so as long as
that's the case I guess I'll be happy enough.
- Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Andresen [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:gary.andresen AT pnwdata DOT com">mailto:gary.andresen AT pnwdata
DOT com</a>]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:16 AM
To: Kendall, Scott APX; 'veritas-bu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is there any command to deactive all jobs...
Well IF you can use the Windows GUI (NOT the JAVA GUI) you can highlight
all your policies and deactivate and activate them with a right button
click.
Left click on 'Policies', this will bring up all your polices on the right
hand pane. You can then select policies using the standard mouse selection
feature of windows. Then right click to bring up the menu, select
deactivate or activate.
Gary Andresen
Impossible Happens, Plan Ahead
Pacific Northwest Data Inc.
Tel: 503.701.5185
Fax: 503.692.3910
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gary.andresen AT pnwdata DOT
com">gary.andresen AT pnwdata DOT com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.pnwdata.com";>www.pnwdata.com</a>
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:veritas-bu";>mailto:veritas-bu</a>-
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:admin AT mailman.eng.auburn
DOT edu">admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a>] On Behalf Of Kendall, Scott
APX
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:17 PM
To: veritas-bu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is there any command to deactive all jobs...
Yeah, until you go to 5.0.
I complained because the GUI no longer lets you set 0 tries. They told
me
it was by design... why would anybody want to use something less than 1?
Obviously, they don't have to manage NetBackup and have never had to
troubleshoot an issue and wanted none of the jobs to start while doing
so...
and since stopping bprd will keep the GUI from starting, which is kind of
a
pain sometimes, that leaves deactivating all Policies according to the
support tech.
I haven't tried editing the config file directly or using CLI to change
it
to see if that still allows it.
Support suggested submitting a feature enhancement to get it put back
in...
funny, you have to request a "new" feature to get something put back in
that
until recently has been in there for many versions and years.
- Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: King, Cheryl [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cheryl.king
AT intrado DOT com">mailto:cheryl.king AT intrado DOT com</a>]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:09 PM
To: Asiye Yigit; veritas-bu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is there any command to deactive all jobs...
I have changed the host properties for the master server for Schedule
backup
attempts to 0 tries (in the Admin Console). That works.
-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu</a>]On Behalf Of Asiye Yigit
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:13 PM
To: veritas-bu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is there any command to deactive all jobs...
Hi,
We will upgrade NB4.5MP5 to NB5.1. During this upgarde procedure,
I mean after upgrading netbackup master server, we would not want jobs
to start automatically (there are some
jobs, we need to break/cancel before the upgrade. After this upgrade,
these jobs can be enter the queue).
There are lots of policies. so, it is so tedious to take all policy to
in a deactivated state.
During the media servers or client upgrade, I think netbackup master
server deamon must be open.
The way may be stopping bprd daemon because it is responsible to
activate bpsched deamon.
i am searching if it is necessary or whether there is a command to
deactivate
all jobs and after the procedure, active all of them.
Regards,
Asiye Yigit
_______________________________________________
Veritas-bu maillist - <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">Veritas-bu AT
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===================================
Steven L. Sesar
Senior Operating System Programmer/Analyst
UNIX Application Services R101
The MITRE Corporation
202 Burlington Road - K101
Bedford, MA 01730
tel: (781) 271-7702
fax: (781) 271-2600
mobile: (617) 893-9635
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ssesar AT mitre DOT
org">ssesar AT mitre DOT org</a>
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