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Wayne, is the snapshot feature you mention a built-in feature of VMware
2.1 or a separate product from VMware or are you using storage vendor
snapshop technology=3F



Mark Jessup - IS Manager
Enterprise Storage and Content Management/Imaging=20
Northwestern Mutual
(414) 661-3968
markjessup AT northwesternmutual DOT com


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From: wtsmith [mailto:wtsmith AT maine DOT edu]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 11:25 AM
To: veritas-bu
Cc: wtsmith
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: VMWARE


We'll soon have a few VMWare servers, each with loads of disk space and =

several virtual windows servers.

We expect to use VMWare's snapshot feature for those Windows machines=20
where we don't expect much individual file restore activity.  The=20
snapshots will be backed up by NetBackup on the VMWare server.  Using=20
this method will make disaster recovery much quicker for us.

cheers, wayne

Ed Wilts wrote:

>On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 10:04:14AM -0400, ChrisCosta AT tdwaterhouse DOT com
wrote:
> =20
>
>>We are rolling out a large VMWARE project within out QA environment.
Here is
>>a basic configuration of the new environment. There are going to be
three
>>large "Wintel" servers running Windows 2000, on each of the three
servers
>>will be running approximately 40 virtual VMWARE sessions. These three
>>"Wintel" servers will have multiple HBA attached to a SAN Storage
>>environment (Hitachi Series 9900) and will be engaged in LUN sharing.
>>=20
>>I am not trying to validate the configuration of the environment, what=

I am
>>trying to do is understand how I will backup these three servers. I am=

>>assuming I will have to have the base Netbackup 4.5FP5 clients
software for
>>the Windows 2000 OS and a NetBackup 4.5FP5 Linux agent on the servers
to
>>backup the VMWARE sessions=3F I am making the correct assumption=3F An=
d if
so,
>>will there be any special configuration setting I will need to make=3F=

>>   =20
>>
>
>I haven't run VMware in several years, but I assume the overall design
>hasn't changed.  Essentially you have a normal Linux file system plus a=

>few large container files for your Windows virtual machines.  I assume
>that you would want to restore individual files for your Windows
systems
>and not an all or nothing approach.
>
>You would need a Linux Netbackup client to do the backups of your
>overall system.  This will take care of things like the VMware software=

>itself and the normal configuration files.
>
>In your Linux NBU config, you'll want to exclude the container files
>since backing them from Linux won't really do you a lot of good.
>
>You would then put a NBU client on each of the Windows virtual
machines.
>Treat them like you would any other Windows host in your environment.
>They would get backed up and restored the same way.
>
>How Veritas licenses this type of ocnfiguration is beyond me.  I don't
>know if you need 1 client or 40 per box.  If they try to nail you for
>40, you may want to investigate another approach.  You could, for
>example, get Linux to mount the Windows virtual machine as a share and
>back it up that way but that makes your restores more complex.
>
> =20
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