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[Veritas-bu] Vol 1 #3086 - APTARE StorageConsole provides list of media going to expire in specific date range

2004-04-12 07:35:06
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Vol 1 #3086 - APTARE StorageConsole provides list of media going to expire in specific date range
From: ckstehman AT pepco DOT com (ckstehman AT pepco DOT com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:35:06 -0400
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The staff at Aptare generated some SQL scripts to e-mail us reports 
showing skipped files and a summary of the previous nights backups
showing backups that were unsuccessful and successful.  They are
scheduled as cron jobs on our Linux Portal server.


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Carl Stehman
PHI Services Company
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
ckstehman AT pepco DOT com





David Rock <dave-bu AT graniteweb DOT com>
Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
04/10/2004 12:16 AM
Please respond to David Rock

 
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        Subject:        Re: [Veritas-bu] Vol 1 #3086 - APTARE StorageConsole 
provides list of 
media going to expire in specific date range


* Ed Wilts <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org> [2004-04-09 18:07]:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 11:50:14AM -0500, Major, Rusty wrote:
> > I'll throw in my two cents about Aptare.
> > It's an excellent product. Very nice, and has quite a few features.
> > The only caveat is that it's kinda pricey. However, you do get what 
you pay for.
> > If your company has the money, I'd highly recommend it.
> 
> FWIW, we're in the middle of an eval process right now.  We started out
> evaluating Bocada's BackupReport and then Aptare's StorageConsole.  The
> price was roughly comparable but the two have different pricing models,
> so it's quite possible that 1 could be cheaper for you but higher priced
> for me.
> 
> StorageConsole is a *VERY* nice product to have.  The eval takes a
> half-hour or so to set up if your master server has Internet access -
> you can push information to Aptare's server (not backup data - just data
> about the backups!).  Work with it for a while and you'll wonder how you
> lived without it.

We are also evaluating Storage Console and so far it has been pretty
nice. We had some issues with the install, but the folks at Aptare were
very willing to work with us to get it going. There are a couple things
that are functionality differences that aren't perfect out of the box,
but the real money is in the Aptare staff. They have already patched two
bugs we found during the eval, and we started that on Wednesday.

The biggest shortcoming for us is the difference in mentality on how to
handle reporting. We were thinking in terms of defining reports to mail
out on a schedule where the design philosophy is to have end users log
in and generate the reports themselves on the fly. Not bad, just a
different way of looking at it. This would be easier if there was
integration into our company's Active Directory to help manage the
accounts.

The real winner is the realtime reporting dashboards. These are pretty
comprehensive displays that can consolidate multiple environments into a
single view, which minimizes the need for running several Netbackup
displays at the same time.

-- 
David Rock
david AT graniteweb DOT com




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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The staff at Aptare generated some SQL 
scripts to e-mail us reports </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">showing skipped files and a summary of the 
previous nights backups</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">showing backups that were unsuccessful and 
successful. &nbsp;They are</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">scheduled as cron jobs on our Linux Portal 
server.</font>
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Carl Stehman<br>
PHI Services Company<br>
202-331-6619<br>
Pager 301-765-2703<br>
ckstehman AT pepco DOT com</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>David Rock &lt;dave-bu AT graniteweb DOT 
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">* Ed Wilts &lt;ewilts AT ewilts DOT org&gt; 
[2004-04-09 18:07]:<br>
&gt; On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 11:50:14AM -0500, Major, Rusty wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; I'll throw in my two cents about Aptare.<br>
&gt; &gt; It's an excellent product. Very nice, and has quite a few 
features.<br>
&gt; &gt; The only caveat is that it's kinda pricey. However, you do get what 
you pay for.<br>
&gt; &gt; If your company has the money, I'd highly recommend it.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; FWIW, we're in the middle of an eval process right now. &nbsp;We started 
out<br>
&gt; evaluating Bocada's BackupReport and then Aptare's StorageConsole. 
&nbsp;The<br>
&gt; price was roughly comparable but the two have different pricing models,<br>
&gt; so it's quite possible that 1 could be cheaper for you but higher 
priced<br>
&gt; for me.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; StorageConsole is a *VERY* nice product to have. &nbsp;The eval takes a<br>
&gt; half-hour or so to set up if your master server has Internet access -<br>
&gt; you can push information to Aptare's server (not backup data - just 
data<br>
&gt; about the backups!). &nbsp;Work with it for a while and you'll wonder how 
you<br>
&gt; lived without it.<br>
<br>
We are also evaluating Storage Console and so far it has been pretty<br>
nice. We had some issues with the install, but the folks at Aptare were<br>
very willing to work with us to get it going. There are a couple things<br>
that are functionality differences that aren't perfect out of the box,<br>
but the real money is in the Aptare staff. They have already patched two<br>
bugs we found during the eval, and we started that on Wednesday.<br>
<br>
The biggest shortcoming for us is the difference in mentality on how to<br>
handle reporting. We were thinking in terms of defining reports to mail<br>
out on a schedule where the design philosophy is to have end users log<br>
in and generate the reports themselves on the fly. Not bad, just a<br>
different way of looking at it. This would be easier if there was<br>
integration into our company's Active Directory to help manage the<br>
accounts.<br>
<br>
The real winner is the realtime reporting dashboards. These are pretty<br>
comprehensive displays that can consolidate multiple environments into a<br>
single view, which minimizes the need for running several Netbackup<br>
displays at the same time.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
David Rock<br>
david AT graniteweb DOT com<br>
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