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What I have done in my previous job as a consultant is create daily
backups that run every 14 hours (open at 6pm close at 6am), this ensures
the start at or near the 6pm mark, depending on when bpsched would
"wake-up". My weekly backup frequency set for every 5 days with only
Thursday, Friday and Saturday with open windows of opportunity. This
ensures that all of my weekly backup jobs will always start on Thursday,
but use Friday and Saturday as my "rain dates" just in case we hit some
errors on Thursday. And Monthly fulls I would set at every 26 days,
with Saturday and Sunday as the only two days open for the backup
window. This ensures that every "month" my monthly full will run on a
Saturday and use Sunday if necessary due to errors.
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I would spread out the full backups across the week for the various
policies (classes) to meet the client expectations for backup.
=20
I found frequency schedules to be much more flexible, personally.
=20
Just a thought.
David A. Chapa * Technical Advisor, Technical Marketing * ADIC *
720.249.5836 * david.chapa AT adic DOT com
Pathlight VX - Integrated Disk-to-Tape Backup - http://www.adic.com
<http://www.adic.com>=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Arnold [mailto:timothy.arnold AT becta.org DOT uk]=20
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:09 AM
To: JLaurie AT csu DOT org
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RE:
=20
Thanks to Rockey Reed for a smilar answer.
=20
I dont think this will work in my environment - currently for my weekly
backups, the frequency is set to every 8 hours (size of backup window) -
The reason I did not set it to 1 week is that if the backup starts one
minute to the end of the backup window, it could potentially miss the
next window as one week away is one minute to the end of the backup
windows the following week.
=20
I would appreciate any thoughts on best practice. I have 4 Hourly,
Daily, Weekly (and soon to be, if we can get it working Monthly) backups
with three pools - Application, Database and System (for each type of
backup). Do people create lots of classes for each filesystem mount or
do you group schedules (i.e daily) together?
=20
Thanks,
Timothy
-----Original Message-----
From: JLaurie AT csu DOT org [mailto:JLaurie AT csu DOT org]=20
Sent: 03 October 2003 15:39
To: Timothy Arnold
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject:=20
=09
Timothy,=20
=09
Add another entry to your schedule tab called something like
fullmonthly and make it identical to your fullweekly except for the
retention period and backup frequency If the times are the same the NBU
scheduler will decide which to run based on the frequency specified.=20
=09
Jim=20
=09
>Hi Veritas Users,
>
>I am running Netbackup 3.4.1 on Solaris 8. At the moment, we
have a weekly backup that we keep for >one month but we would like to
take the last backup of the month and save it for six months. Is >there
any way to use the same weekly schedule but simply not reuse the tape
and reimport them into >the catalog if I need to use it?
>
>Ideally I am looking for a very simple method that does not
require the operator to do anything >different!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Timothy.
>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What I have done in my previous job =
as a
consultant is create daily backups that run every 14 hours (open at 6pm =
close
at 6am), this ensures the start at or near the 6pm mark, depending on =
when <span
class=3DSpellE>bpsched</span> would “wake-up”.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>My weekly backup frequency set =
for every
5 days with only Thursday, Friday and Saturday with open windows of
opportunity.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>This ensures =
that all
of my weekly backup jobs will always start on Thursday, but use Friday =
and
Saturday as my “rain dates” just in case we hit some errors =
on
Thursday.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And Monthly =
<span
class=3DSpellE>fulls</span> I would set at every 26 days, with Saturday =
and
Sunday as the only two days open for the backup window.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>This ensures that every =
“month”
my monthly full will run on a Saturday and use Sunday if necessary due =
to
errors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would spread out the full backups =
across
the week for the various policies (classes) to meet the client =
expectations for
backup.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I found frequency schedules to be =
much
more flexible, personally.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just a =
thought.</span></font></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></b><font
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style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Symbol;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>½</span></font><font size=3D1 =
color=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'> Technical =
Advisor,
Technical Marketing </span></font><font size=3D1 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DSymbol><span
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Symbol;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>=
½</span></font><font
size=3D1 color=3D"#999999"><span =
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yes'> </span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dred><span =
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color:red;font-weight:bold;mso-no-proof:yes'>ADIC</span></font></b><font
size=3D1 color=3D"#999999"><span =
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yes'> </span></font><font size=3D1 color=3Dnavy face=3DSymbol><span =
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nt><font
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720.249.5836 </span></font><font size=3D1 color=3Dnavy =
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com</a></span></fon=
t><font
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<p><font size=3D1 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Pathlight VX - Integrated Disk-to-Tape =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Timothy Arnold
[mailto:timothy.arnold AT becta.org DOT uk<span class=3DGramE>] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent</span></b></span><b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>:</span></b> Friday, October 03, 2003 9:09 =
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> JLaurie AT csu DOT org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:PersonName><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>veritas-bu AT mailman.eng DOT
aubu=
rn.edu</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] =
RE:</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks to Rockey =
Reed for
a smilar answer.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I dont think =
this will
work in my environment - currently for my weekly backups, the frequency =
is set
to every 8 hours (size of backup window) - The reason I did not set it =
to 1
week is that if the backup starts one minute to the end of the backup =
window,
it could potentially miss the next window as one week away is one minute =
to the
end of the backup windows the following =
week.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I would =
appreciate any
thoughts on best practice. I have 4 Hourly, Daily, Weekly (and soon =
to be,
if we can get it working Monthly) backups with three pools - =
Application,
Database and System (for each type of backup). Do people create lots of =
classes
for each filesystem mount or do you group schedules (i.e daily) =
together?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks,</span></f=
ont><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Timothy</span></f=
ont><o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> JLaurie AT csu DOT org
[mailto:JLaurie AT csu DOT org] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 03 October 2003 =
15:39<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Timothy Arnold<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><tt><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Timothy,</span></font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Add another
entry to your schedule tab called something like fullmonthly and make it
identical to your fullweekly except for the retention period and backup
frequency If the times are the same the NBU scheduler will decide which =
to run
based on the frequency specified.</span></font></tt> <br>
<br>
<tt><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Jim</span></font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>>Hi
Veritas Users,</span></font></tt><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>I am running Netbackup 3.4.1 on =
Solaris 8. At
the moment, we have a weekly backup that we keep for >one month but =
we would
like to take the last backup of the month and save it for six months. Is
>there any way to use the same weekly schedule but simply not reuse =
the tape
and reimport them into >the catalog if I need to use =
it?</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Ideally I am looking for a very =
simple method
that does not require the operator to do anything =
>different!</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Thanks,</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier New">>Timothy.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face=3D"Courier =
New">></font></tt></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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