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I also agree that NBAR may not be your best choice.
I have had an open ticket with Veritas since 7/9/03 because my Advanced
Reporter stopped
reporting the amount of data being backed up! The problem went to something
called backline
support and has been there for over a month now. (absolutely no idea why
this stopped working
and they have been unable to provide a fix) (Case I/D 181496340)
My management here is wondering if we can get our money back for support on
this product.
For what it's worth.
Bob Gates
UNIX systems management
Pfizer Corporation
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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter
I agree. I have Project Managers who always ask for statistics that NBAR
cannot provide. For example, I was asked to provide a report that shows all
successful Restores, for an entire month, of three particular clients in
which the restore purpose was only for our "Duplication" project. From what
I can see, NBAR cannot be that specific in its restore reporting - it will
show you all restores for all clients during a certain time period, but you
cannot filter it to display specific clients. The lack of a way to modify,
or filter, the report display, is the problem.
Instead, we wind up having to write scripts, or use the command line, for
almost every single Manager's or Departmental request.
Paul Griese
System Management
713-331-6454
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From: Fabbro, Andrew P [ mailto:Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com
<mailto:Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:55 PM
To: 'Dennis Caparas'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter
Questionable benefit. The web reports are OK, but not modify-able. Really,
I don't see a lot of value in them, except to publish for external users.
But if said users want something the default reports don't give, you're out
of luck.
You can have direct access to the NBAR SQL (storied in a MySQL database) to
do your own custom reports, but
(1) the schema is not properly documented (i.e., it's wrong)
(2) some fields are apparently not updated
(3) it's not inline-tape-copy-aware
(4) there is *no support* for querying the database. Even though they
document the schema, Veritas support will not answer questions (like "why
doesn't this column exist when it's shown in the schema" or "why is this a
different type than the schema shows").
We're looking at different products right now on reporting. Aptare looks
interesting. I've heard good and bad about Bocada but haven't really
examined it.
--
Drew Fabbro [fabbro.andrew AT cnf DOT com]
Unix Systems Group
Desk: 503-450-3374
Cell: 503-701-0369
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From: Dennis Caparas [ mailto:dcaparas AT borland DOT com
<mailto:dcaparas AT borland DOT com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:53 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter
Hi admins,
Master server is Solaris 9 runnning Netbackup 4.5 MP3 .
My managers are looking for a reporting tool which can give some pretty good
statistics. Please give your opinion about the Advance Reporter ( benefits,
functionality..etc.)
Thanks in advance,
Dennis
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<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
also
agree that NBAR may not be your best choice.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
have
had an open ticket with Veritas since 7/9/03 because my Advanced Reporter
stopped</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>reporting the amount of data being backed up! The problem went to
something called backline</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>support and has been there for over a month now. (absolutely no idea why
this stopped working</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>and
they have been unable to provide a fix) (Case I/D 181496340)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My
management here is wondering if we can get our money back for support on this
product.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For
what it's worth.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Bob
Gates</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>UNIX
systems management</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=508533113-18092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Pfizer
Corporation</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Paul.Griese AT TeleCheck
DOT com
[mailto:Paul.Griese AT TeleCheck DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,
September 17,
2003 3:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com; dcaparas AT borland
DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>I agree. I have Project Managers who always ask for
statistics
that NBAR cannot provide. For example, I was asked to provide a report that
shows all successful Restores, for an entire month, of three particular
clients in which the restore purpose was only for our "Duplication" project.
From what I can see, NBAR cannot be that specific in its restore reporting -
it will show you all restores for all clients during a certain time period,
but you cannot filter it to display specific clients. The lack of a way to
modify, or filter, the report display, is the problem.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Instead, we wind up having to write scripts, or use the
command line, for almost every single Manager's or Departmental
request.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Paul Griese</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>System Management</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>713-331-6454</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Fabbro, Andrew P [<A
href="mailto:Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com">mailto:Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT
com</A>]
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:55 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>To: 'Dennis Caparas';
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: RE:
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Questionable benefit. The web reports are OK, but not
modify-able. Really, I don't see a lot of value in them, except to
publish for external users. But if said users want something the default
reports don't give, you're out of luck.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>You can have direct access to the NBAR SQL (storied in a
MySQL
database) to do your own custom reports, but </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>(1) the schema is not properly documented (i.e., it's
wrong)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>(2) some fields are apparently not
updated</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>(3) it's not inline-tape-copy-aware</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>(4) there is *no support* for querying the database.
Even though they document the schema, Veritas support will not answer
questions (like "why doesn't this column exist when it's shown in the schema"
or "why is this a different type than the schema shows").</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>We're looking at different products right now on
reporting. Aptare looks interesting. I've heard good and bad
about
Bocada but haven't really examined it.</FONT></P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>--</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> Drew Fabbro
[fabbro.andrew AT cnf DOT com]</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> Unix Systems
Group</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2> Desk: 503-450-3374</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2> Cell: 503-701-0369</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Dennis Caparas [<A
href="mailto:dcaparas AT borland DOT com">mailto:dcaparas AT borland DOT
com</A>]
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:53 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT
size=2>Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Hi admins,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Master server is Solaris 9 runnning Netbackup 4.5 MP3
.</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>My managers are looking for a reporting tool which can give
some pretty good statistics. Please give your opinion about the Advance
Reporter ( benefits,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>functionality..etc.)</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Thanks in advance,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Dennis</FONT>
</P><BR><BR>
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