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A little while ago, I've try the 3.4 DC IDR on NT4, there were all
working fine, but only 50/50 on Win2k's, it's also depend on the
Physical box, most likely, old Compaq has more chance to success, but
other like HP and Dell failed a lot.
Now, HP and Compaq so called HP_Compaq, and most of our server already
move to Win2k. Recovery seem to be more important. If restore a
production server from scratch, O/S along will take 1~2 hours including
all security patches, plus all apps and data, sometime you need restore
not one server but two or three or more. What a headache for admin!
We are 4.5 DC now, I'll try to again, hopefully, this time makes
difference.
-M
>>> "WEAVER, Simon" <Simon.WEAVER AT astrium-space DOT com> 6/25/2003 8:33:32
AM >>>
Guys
Just to let you know I just tried IDR on NT4 and it worked absolutely
fine!!
Without any troubles at all!
How odd!! Like it was mentioned earlier, it is probably looking for
the
drivers for the Hard Drive (Being a HP Server with HP SmartStart
installed!)
Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-Space DOT com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Grabbe [mailto:GRABBEB AT dominos DOT com]
Sent: 25 June 2003 01:09:PM
To: WEAVER, Simon; spe08 AT co.henrico.va DOT us;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] IDR for Win2k SP3
I'd like to see it. I tried the idr with Win2k once and gave it up as
impossible. Might be worth trying again though.
Bob Grabbe
Dominos Pizza LLC
grabbeb AT dominos DOT com
>>> "Spearman, David" <spe08 AT co.henrico.va DOT us> 6/25/03 7:47:07 AM >>>
Simon,
Our group has studied the use of IDR extensively. Originally on the
3.4
Data Center platform and now 4.5_4. We use a W2K master/media
connected
to an L700. I will try to stay relatively brief.
3.4 IDR
As stated the CD option is only for NT4 systems. W2K systems are
floppy
only. The major caveat in W2K floppies is that the disk system driver
must have resided on the W2K installation CD (as in no service packs)
otherwise you will have to load the driver for your disk system
manually. In the end not much different than loading from scratch and
restoring over. It does work fine with older systems.
4.5
We still have an outstanding call in with Veritas on 4.5 CD based IDR.
As it turns out we were finding a lot of problems that they didn't
even
realize existed. The Veritas stand however is that IDR is an add on
product, not the core. I can't say that I disagree with them since IDR
is not essential for recovery. While W2K CD based IDR is supported it
is
shall we say "buggy". (I will not go into how bad it can get with
really
complicated systems like the ES7000) I created a document that goes
over
how to accomplish a w2k cd based IDR but it is lengthy. If any one
really wants it I can make it available.
David Spearman
County of Henrico, Va.
-----Original Message-----
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:Simon.WEAVER AT astrium-space DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:20 AM
To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] IDR for Win2k SP3
Hi guys
Setup: Master / Media Server with NBU 3.4 Patch 4 applied on all
boxes,
on
NT4 SP6a Platform.
We are now introducing Windows 2000 Servers running SP3, and I am
therefore
backing them up successfully!
Yesterday I tried to use the IDR Prep Wizard in order to make the
relevant
bootable CD! The servers are HP Proliant G2 servers!
Bad news was that it appears NBU 3.4 does not support a bootable CD
for
Windows 2000, only NT 4.0
So I created the 4 boot disks and the IDR Recovery Diskette!
After rebooting the Server and inserting all the disks, I was then
prompted
to insert the Win2k CD, which I done. Upon pressing return I get the
message
"Set-up did not find any hard drives installed in your computer". It
is
a
basic Win2k SETUP message, and simply put, setup does not continue!
The IDR disks were created on this specific server. But does anyone
know
if
IDR does not work correctly with these latest servers! They also run
the
latest smart start version 6.x (made by HP).
Does anyone have a clue what I may be overlooking!?
I am going to re-create the disks again in an attempt to troubleshoot
this
more! I will also try another Server running Win2k!
Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-Space DOT com
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<DIV>A little while ago, I've try the 3.4 DC IDR on NT4, there were all working
fine, but only 50/50 on Win2k's, it's also depend on the Physical box, most
likely, old Compaq has more chance to success, but other like HP and Dell
failed
a lot. </DIV>
<DIV>Now, HP and Compaq so called HP_Compaq, and most of our server already
move
to Win2k. Recovery seem to be more important. If restore a production server
from scratch, O/S along will take 1~2 hours including all security patches,
plus
all apps and data, sometime you need restore not one server but two or three or
more. What a headache for admin! </DIV>
<DIV>We are 4.5 DC now, I'll try to again, hopefully, this time makes
difference. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-M</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>>>> "WEAVER, Simon" <Simon.WEAVER AT astrium-space DOT
com>
6/25/2003 8:33:32 AM >>><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Guys<BR>Just to let you know I just tried IDR on NT4 and it worked
absolutely fine!!<BR>Without any troubles at all!<BR><BR>How odd!! Like it was
mentioned earlier, it is probably looking for the<BR>drivers for the Hard Drive
(Being a HP Server with HP SmartStart installed!)<BR><BR>Simon Weaver<BR>NT
Domain Administrator<BR>Ext. 5544<BR>Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct
Dial)<BR>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-Space DOT com<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Bob Grabbe [<A
href="mailto:GRABBEB AT dominos DOT com]">mailto:GRABBEB AT dominos DOT
com]</A><BR>Sent: 25
June 2003 01:09:PM<BR>To: WEAVER, Simon; spe08 AT co.henrico.va DOT us;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] IDR for
Win2k
SP3<BR><BR>I'd like to see it. I tried the idr with Win2k once and gave it up
as<BR>impossible. Might be worth trying again though.<BR>Bob Grabbe<BR>Dominos
Pizza LLC<BR><BR>grabbeb AT dominos DOT com<BR><BR><BR>>>> "Spearman,
David"
<spe08 AT co.henrico.va DOT us> 6/25/03 7:47:07 AM
>>><BR>Simon,<BR><BR>Our group has studied the use of IDR extensively.
Originally on the<BR>3.4<BR>Data Center platform and now 4.5_4. We use a W2K
master/media<BR>connected<BR>to an L700. I will try to stay relatively
brief.<BR><BR>3.4 IDR<BR><BR>As stated the CD option is only for NT4 systems.
W2K systems are<BR>floppy<BR>only. The major caveat in W2K floppies is that the
disk system driver<BR>must have resided on the W2K installation CD (as in no
service packs)<BR>otherwise you will have to load the driver for your disk
system<BR>manually. In the end not much different than loading from scratch
and<BR>restoring over. It does work fine with older
systems.<BR><BR>4.5<BR><BR>We still have an outstanding call in with Veritas on
4.5 CD based IDR.<BR>As it turns out we were finding a lot of problems that
they
didn't<BR>even<BR>realize existed. The Veritas stand however is that IDR is an
add on<BR>product, not the core. I can't say that I disagree with them since
IDR<BR>is not essential for recovery. While W2K CD based IDR is supported
it<BR>is<BR>shall we say "buggy". (I will not go into how bad it can get
with<BR>really<BR>complicated systems like the ES7000) I created a document
that
goes<BR>over<BR>how to accomplish a w2k cd based IDR but it is lengthy. If any
one<BR>really wants it I can make it available.<BR><BR>David Spearman<BR>County
of Henrico, Va.<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: WEAVER, Simon [<A
href="mailto:Simon.WEAVER AT astrium-space DOT com]">mailto:Simon.WEAVER AT
astrium-space DOT com]</A><BR>Sent:
Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:20 AM<BR>To:
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR>Subject: [Veritas-bu] IDR for
Win2k
SP3<BR><BR>Hi guys<BR>Setup: Master / Media Server with NBU 3.4 Patch 4 applied
on all<BR>boxes,<BR>on<BR>NT4 SP6a Platform.<BR><BR>We are now introducing
Windows 2000 Servers running SP3, and I am<BR>therefore<BR>backing them up
successfully!<BR>Yesterday I tried to use the IDR Prep Wizard in order to make
the<BR>relevant<BR>bootable CD! The servers are HP Proliant G2
servers!<BR><BR>Bad news was that it appears NBU 3.4 does not support a
bootable
CD<BR>for<BR>Windows 2000, only NT 4.0<BR>So I created the 4 boot disks and the
IDR Recovery Diskette!<BR><BR>After rebooting the Server and inserting all the
disks, I was then<BR>prompted<BR>to insert the Win2k CD, which I done. Upon
pressing return I get the<BR>message<BR>"Set-up did not find any hard drives
installed in your computer". It<BR>is<BR>a<BR>basic Win2k SETUP message, and
simply put, setup does not continue!<BR><BR>The IDR disks were created on this
specific server. But does anyone<BR>know<BR>if<BR>IDR does not work correctly
with these latest servers! They also run<BR>the<BR>latest smart start version
6.x (made by HP).<BR><BR>Does anyone have a clue what I may be
overlooking!?<BR><BR>I am going to re-create the disks again in an attempt to
troubleshoot<BR>this<BR>more! I will also try another Server running
Win2k!<BR><BR>Simon Weaver<BR>NT Domain Administrator<BR>Ext. 5544<BR>Tel:
02392-705544 (Direct Dial)<BR>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-Space DOT
com<BR><BR>...<BR>This
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