You are right.  My comment is based on how NetBackup currently works.
I've been using NetBackup since before Veritas bought it and there
are many features (which I call stupidisms) which I've wished
were fixed or improved.  The server-side exclude lists being one
of them; the ability to have more than 2 catalog backup media another.

Veritas has been good about adding support for new platforms and
hardware, but not for improving features.  In fact, in the last
release (NetBackup 4.5), they removed very functional motif
interfaces and replaced it with a java pig.


On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Greenberg, Katherine A wrote:

> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:09:26 -0400
> From: "Greenberg, Katherine A" <GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com>
> To: 'Kathryn Hemness' <kfhemness AT ucdavis DOT edu>,
>      veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 4.5 Failing to recognize exclude_list on Sol
>
> Ergo, the software is flawed. Since most of the other products out there
> contain server side exclude lists and these exclude lists are queried prior
> to the backups being scheduled, the 120 extraneous filesystem job entries of
> 32KB will never appear.
>
> Katherine Greenberg
> 860.636.6724
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathryn Hemness [mailto:kfhemness AT ucdavis DOT edu]
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:55 PM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 4.5 Failing to recognize exclude_list on Sol
>
>
>
> Kate --
>
> I find your logic a bit flawed.  NetBackup puts job in the scheduler queue
> right when the backup window opens, even before contacting the client
> system. Since the exclude_list is on the client, the master server doesn't
> even know of its existence until the job actually starts.  Having to make
> contact with the client prior to queuing a job would introduce lots of
> delays, which could be horrendous if there were hundreds of clients in a
> backup enterprise.
>
> > Message: 10
> > From: "Greenberg, Katherine A" <GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com>
> > To: "'fperetmere AT adic DOT com'" <fperetmere AT adic DOT com>,
> >    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 4.5 Failing to recognize exclude_list on Sol
> >      aris
> > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:05:52 -0400
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > I realized it was (more or less) me being stupid and VERITAS writing
> > crappy software...
> >
> > Here's what I found:
> >
> > Create the /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/bpbkar directory and every file
> > system creates a job, but after each job is created it checks against
> > the Exclude list to determine if that needs to be backed up or not. I
> > was getting confused b/c on this particular system the Exclude list
> > has about 120 filesystems in it and the jobs were still getting
> > *generated*. (It's an ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES variable being passed in the
> > Policy)
> >
> > Wouldn't it make more sense to have Scheduler look to an exclude list
> > before it generates the job list for a particular system?!?!?!?!
> >
> > As always, more fun through NetBackup :)
> >
> > ~Kate
> >
>
> --Kathy
> kfhemness AT ucdavis DOT edu
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