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Our operators work almost entirely from scripts I've written. The use of
the command-line is not unusual in this office and using the command line
lets me force exactly the operation I want to occur without fear that
they've mis-clicked and forgotten to set some option box or something. By
running my "inject_tapes" script, as opposed to using the media management
gui, my operators use exactly the options, barcode rules, etc. that I want
to happen every time.
My tape rotation script, for vaulting tapes, is triggered as a cron job, it
identifies the tapes to be removed and automatically moves them to the
mailslots. It sends an email with the tapes to be removed & supplies a list
of tapes to be inserted in their stead. It then pages the operator that
there's a rotation task to be performed.
I use a similar strategy with the weekly duplication process.
Cold backups of applications are best handled as you mentioned, with start &
stop scripts as used by Netbackup. This allows you to reschedule your jobs
and the start/stop stuff moves with it. My Oracle environment is very
complex so my start/stop script is probably not applicable to your
environment but it's pretty much a matter of calling the dbshut & dbstart
scripts in your Oracle's $ORAHOME/bin directory to make it happen.
I also backup to disk, although I have a scheduled job that reaps it to tape
to keep from filling up the disk space (duplication of image to tape, then
forced expiration of disk image). The thing to remember with disk is that
it isn't compressed, unless you're using the NB client-side compression (and
that costs big CPU and frankly isn't that good a compression algorithm).
Tape is still usually a cost savings over disk so you'll want to be careful
with that.
You'll use more disk that tape, in my experience, as measured by just
GBytes.
HTH - Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Arnold [mailto:timothy.arnold AT becta.org DOT uk]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 11:04 AM
To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Operator tape removal & backup scripts
Hiya,
I have a couple of questions regarding NetBackup 3.4 (running on Solaris).
OK, the first is - what should your operator do when removing tapes from
netbackup and putting in the safe? Do people duplicate tapes, move them into
volume groups for particular days? - do operators generally use the GUI
interface rather than the command line?
The other question is how do I perform cold backups of applications? As I
understand it I can use backup start & stop scripts which will force the
application to shutdown prior to backup and then resume after? Does anyone
have any examples for Inktomi or Oracle?
I am also looking for alternatives for tape backup. At the moment we perform
full backup's everynight. We use a lot of tapes per week and I am curious to
see if anyone has implemented backups to disk etc?
Thanks,
Tim.
*** Send all support request to helpdesk AT ngfl.gov DOT uk *** Timothy J Arnold
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Our operators work almost entirely from scripts I've =
written. The use of the command-line is not unusual in this =
office and using the command line lets me force exactly the operation I =
want to occur without fear that they've mis-clicked and forgotten to =
set some option box or something. By running my =
"inject_tapes" script, as opposed to using the media =
management gui, my operators use exactly the options, barcode rules, =
etc. that I want to happen every time.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My tape rotation script, for vaulting tapes, is =
triggered as a cron job, it identifies the tapes to be removed and =
automatically moves them to the mailslots. It sends an email with =
the tapes to be removed & supplies a list of tapes to be inserted =
in their stead. It then pages the operator that there's a =
rotation task to be performed.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I use a similar strategy with the weekly duplication =
process.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cold backups of applications are best handled as you =
mentioned, with start & stop scripts as used by Netbackup. =
This allows you to reschedule your jobs and the start/stop stuff moves =
with it. My Oracle environment is very complex so my start/stop =
script is probably not applicable to your environment but it's pretty =
much a matter of calling the dbshut & dbstart scripts in your =
Oracle's $ORAHOME/bin directory to make it happen.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I also backup to disk, although I have a scheduled =
job that reaps it to tape to keep from filling up the disk space =
(duplication of image to tape, then forced expiration of disk =
image). The thing to remember with disk is that it isn't =
compressed, unless you're using the NB client-side compression (and =
that costs big CPU and frankly isn't that good a compression =
algorithm). Tape is still usually a cost savings over disk so =
you'll want to be careful with that.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You'll use more disk that tape, in my experience, as =
measured by just GBytes.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>HTH - Mark</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Timothy Arnold [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:timothy.arnold AT becta.org DOT uk">mailto:timothy.arnold@becta.=
org.uk</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 11:04 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [Veritas-bu] Operator tape removal & =
backup scripts</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hiya,</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have a couple of questions regarding NetBackup 3.4 =
(running on Solaris).</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>OK, the first is - what should your operator do when =
removing tapes from</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>netbackup and putting in the safe? Do people =
duplicate tapes, move them into</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>volume groups for particular days? - do operators =
generally use the GUI</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>interface rather than the command line?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The other question is how do I perform cold backups =
of applications? As I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>understand it I can use backup start & stop =
scripts which will force the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>application to shutdown prior to backup and then =
resume after? Does anyone</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>have any examples for Inktomi or Oracle?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am also looking for alternatives for tape backup. =
At the moment we perform</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>full backup's everynight. We use a lot of tapes per =
week and I am curious to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>see if anyone has implemented backups to disk =
etc?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks,</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tim.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>*** Send all support request to helpdesk AT ngfl.gov DOT uk =
*** Timothy J Arnold</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Systems Support Officer, Educational Technology =
Becta Millburn Hill Road</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>University of Warwick Science Park Coventry CV4 7JJ =
024 7684 7169 | 07766</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>776905 <A HREF=3D"http://www.becta.org.uk"; =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.becta.org.uk</A> | <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.ngfl.gov.uk"; =
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